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10-25-2015 , 06:13 PM
I am UTG with $200. SB seems like a loose aggressive regular. I saw him chase down a flush only a few hands earlier calling a big PF bet with garbage and he's deep stacked. BB is a tight lady. My image is fairly tight at this point as I’ve been card dead.

I got AA and raised $15 UTG. Fold around to him in SB and he calls and so does BB. Pot is $45.
Flop is A58 SB checks. BB checks. I bet $25 and its call SB and fold BB. Pot is now $95.
Turn is 2. SB checks. I bet $40 and SB calls. Pot is now $180.
River is 10 giving fours to the board. SB leads for $70. I have about $120 behind. I think for a bit and fold.

Any thoughts on how I played the hand? Should I have just made bigger bets on the flop and or turn? Maybe a $45 flop bet and just try to win the pot right there with a set of Aces? But when you hit that big on the flop its like you want to get more value than that, but of course that exposes me to a four board some of the time.
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10-25-2015 , 10:17 PM
Bigger on the flop.
$30 - $40 here will normally get looked up by the same range $25 will.

River fold seems fine.
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10-25-2015 , 10:41 PM
River: I'd fold. If he's betting without a diamond, he earned it.
A little bigger OTF and bigger OTT would be good. $40 on the turn seems very small. If you went a little bigger flop, could fire $85 on the turn. As played, you gave him too good a price to draw.
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10-26-2015 , 01:22 AM
Thanks for the input guys.

On the flop, should i then be overbetting to punish a draw to an amount such as $50? I guess i watched a video that said just because there is a flush draw on board, an opponent only has that a small percentage of the time..but the video was referring to a single opponent in that case.
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10-26-2015 , 01:36 AM
I'd probably fold as well. Terrible run out for top set but I think a fold is the right decision.
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10-26-2015 , 08:52 AM
I agree with the small flop bet and trying to get some kind of value from flopping that big. Nothing wrong with that bet.

But when the third diamond hits the board, I am going to bomb the turn hard enough that makes V pot committed to the hand. Something like 90.
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10-26-2015 , 09:02 AM
I think you played it fine.
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10-26-2015 , 09:10 AM
Bet more on the flop and turn, river is a fold.
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10-26-2015 , 10:17 AM
I like betting on the flush card when villain is more likely on a static hand than a draw, and will call a big bet when behind if he has something he's not ready to give up yet, or if he picked up a bdfd. Villain could have used this line against you, and I think we have to stop for a minute and think about why he didn't. Probably because he has no equity OTT.

LAGs like the call-call-bet line against TAGs. Bet-sizing OTT made that easy for him. Thing is, there's a very high likelihood of you being on a good equity hand. He can approach this one of two ways; to call until a scare card falls and then bomb it, or he can hang in there with draws to get io from a hand you can't get away from.

So I think if you're going to bet the turn, it needs to deny him odds to draw. Only problem is, you're kind of running out of bullets.

What do you guys think about checking OTT to keep villain's range open, improve odds of making a good call OTR? Hero has 10 outs, if villain picked up a bdfd he only has 9 clean outs. Among other things, hero might should be thinking about leaving himself some stack leverage OTR

Last edited by AbqDave; 10-26-2015 at 10:31 AM.
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10-26-2015 , 10:50 AM
To be clear, I'm not in love with the idea, depends on villain's checking range in light of his call OTF.

Is it possible villain's turn checking range is only bdfd's, with the plan of calling if you give him odds to call, and check-raising all in if you don't? If so, maybe hero's turn bet sizing was just right? You're ahead in the drawing contest. Value is value; forty bucks is forty bucks.

Last edited by AbqDave; 10-26-2015 at 11:07 AM.
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10-26-2015 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
River: I'd fold. If he's betting without a diamond, he earned it.
A little bigger OTF and bigger OTT would be good. $40 on the turn seems very small. If you went a little bigger flop, could fire $85 on the turn. As played, you gave him too good a price to draw.
1)Villian as described doesnt seem to care about what odds hes getting,
2)whose to say he didnt hit the flush on the turn.

so i think it was played well it was straightforward as it should be, if river was a board pairing 4th diamond hero could have made a nice pot sized bet on the river,,
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10-26-2015 , 12:12 PM
check turn unless you have a read that villain leads with flushes there. Would really suck to get CR on the turn here.
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10-26-2015 , 12:38 PM
Quick thought on the flop, you should have an idea of how sticky the villains are to better decide whether to bomb the pot and punish/scare the chasers, or whether you need to not over commit and give yourself fold equity if the flush hits.
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10-30-2015 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
But when the third diamond hits the board, I am going to bomb the turn hard enough that makes V pot committed to the hand. Something like 90.
Since we're holding top set, there are way more combos of flush draws than Ax for V on the flop, therefore I feel we should proceed a little cautiously on the turn. $90 might just scare away Ax (even with a diamond). We want those hands to call, especially since we have position and can evaluate V's river action if a 4th diamond falls.

If you add in the possibility of V holding middle pairs, SD type of hands on flop, then yeah committing yourself on the turn seems OK. But then again, we want those hands to CALL getting bad odds by making medium sized bets rather than potting it and allowing them to play perfectly by folding everything but a flush here.

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10-30-2015 , 09:09 PM
Bet flop and turn bigger as others have said.

Checking turn would be criminal. We have a very strong made hand with a redraw to the effective nuts and villain is described as loose. You guys no like value from 9d9x?

As played, river is a fold.
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