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Old 02-01-2016, 07:47 PM   #1
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1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

This may be nothing more than a simple line check.

Hero (290): second hand at the table. known by most at the table, not sure about HJ. normally aggressive raising range in LP. this was only the second hand in a new game.

HJ (229): unknown to me, though we may have played together. casually dressed, quiet, neat middle-aged guy. likely your typical "plays in some home games and gets to the casino occasionally" type.

Button (200): super loose preflop. terrible player. peels flops, shrivels up when the bets get bigger.

Hero has AA in CO.

Preflop: 4 folds, HJ calls $2, Hero raises to $11, button calls, blinds fold, HJ calls.

Flop (3/$36): Q76
Check, Hero bets $20, call, call.

Donkeys. Button calls very wide. HJ call may limit the top end of his range, but does it make draws more likely? Button looks concerned that HJ called. Anybody bet $25-$30 on this board?

Turn (3/$96-7=$89): J
Check, Hero bets $60, fold, call.

Button gives up, HJ calls rather quickly. Another sign he may be on draws. Can I get away with a pot sized bet here? Does pot commitment matter in this hand?

River (2/$209): 9
HJ all-in for $128, Hero ?

Thoughts?
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:56 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

Multiway and wet flop, at least $25. Probably $30.

$70 or so on the turn.

Sigh fold river, awful card. I guess he can have an occasional busted straight draw as a bluff but we need better reads to assume he can do this considering how much stuff got there.
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:03 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

PF: OK

F (36): SPR is ~5 and ~8. If these guys are on a draw, then if they'll call $20, they'll call $30. $20 bet is fine, but I'd like to see a bit more.

T (96): $60 bet is fine. If HJ called quick, I would lean towards draws. If he had a set, he might think about it a bit more, unless he has already planned his hand and said he was check/calling anyway.

R (216):
So V shoves for $128 on a board of Qh 7c 6h Js 9h. The 9h is quite the scare card. There are not really any hands that we beat, that would play it this way. He's not doing this with AQ. I doubt he would do this with QJ. Just feels like a straight or flush. Did he just do this with a hand like 8s9s and bluff the river? I'd fold.

Did you plan on betting the river? Did you think you could get three streets of value against this V and this board?
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:16 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

Hero has an aggressive image...

$15 pre.

Pot otf.

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Old 02-01-2016, 08:22 PM   #5
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

Holly ****, I thought the rake at 2/3 games here in Los Angeles was bad, but $-7 after the flop in a 1/2? I think the house is the real villain here, but anyways... IMO $20 OTF would be good HU. Multi-way, $25/30+ would be fine. Worse hands would call. I like the turn bet. PSB might scare away the average looky-loo. Considering the quick call you got, this guy might pay you off more next time, but vs an unknown, 2/3pot would be the highest I'd go w/out it really screaming "get off the draw." I don't see a rec player having the awareness to rep a flush OTR often enough though. Simply ask for the puking bucket and fold.
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:23 PM   #6
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

Everything looks fine to me for the most part. Sucks, but you have to find a fold on river. I def prefer larger sizing on such a wet flop vs 2 villians, w/one IP.
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:58 PM   #7
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

Played fine. Awful river card. I doubt he shoves with a one pair hand. Everything but T9/98 hit. Even T9/98 probably check for showdown. You're almost always beat. Good two streets of value on the flop/turn.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:38 AM   #8
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

Yup everything is fine, i do agree with everyone else with bigger bet sizing. I think given we are multiway we have less PE then say HU and generally they will have good PE vs. our exact hand so we can make it near pot.

(Bet, Bet, x) line here is pretty standard given multiway w/overpair.
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:28 AM   #9
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

As played, pretty ez fold w/o reads. Maintained size of pot, bad run out.

I would have bet more OTF given the BTN descript.
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:57 AM   #10
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Re: 1/2 NL: AA bet sizing and a river decision.

I don't know what size PFR was being called in your game so I won't say it was too small.

I find even reggish players just peel flops more these days. They expect a Cbet, there is no A and no K. Add to that these villain descriptions and I'm betting 3/4 pot minimum. I just don't expect Qx, hearts or oesds to fold for a single flop bet so just get as much value as possible on that bet.

Otherwise seems standard. Nothing in read would lead me to conclude v has a lot of bluffs in his range. Just a sucky river.
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