Weekly home game. Dealer's choice, everything played is no limit. Mostly Holdem, Omaha high, or some sort of Big O/Big Easy variation.

Villain is a mid-20's stoner who plays more often than Hero outside of this home game. Slightly more aggressive in holdem than Big O. Doesn't care about SPR (i.e. betting 1/10th psb with the nuts). Not a total drooler either.

Hero is a mid-20's Asian who doesn't play as much as he used to or wants. Classic STAG but plays more LAGgy at this home game.

6 handed. Folds to Hero(covers) OTB who opens to 7 with J6.
Villain(~275ish) 3b to 21.
BB folds.
Hero calls.
Villain bets 30 in the dark.

Flop(43) J54
Hero calls.

Turn(103) 7
Villain bets 42.

How do I get the max?

Obvious fold pre so save it.

Flop is an obvious call. There's no point in raising. Although the gamble in me wanted to get it in and run it twice

Villain's range is every combo of Ax broadway, AA, KK, and QQ with one or no spades.

Flatting pre was not good.

4b/f to 50 if you think he 3bets wide enough in that spot.

I'm raising a 40% turn bet to about 100. if he folds he folds. Not letting him get cheap cards and controlling the pot.

If he's got a pair with one big spade... raising OTT 150 charges him an appropriate amount to draw and sets up a pretty easy river shove.

Not easy hand. Ofc we should snap fold pre to the 3b, small Jxs is clearly overdefend.
Flop is call and turn is difficult. Usualy I would say raise turn with any flush lower than Khigh for protection, but here two spade outs give us straight flush and call may be better.

Grunch

If we're gonna play this hand and V bets dark for us, we need to be shoveling in chips. Our equity is just too damn good to not gamble it up here. As played though, we're raising here. Raise to 100 and shove non spade rivers, obv calling if shoved on.

Raise flop....you hit the dream flop and just flat? I am totally fine getting it in here against AA as a slight favorite

4 bet pre if u think he is 3 betting light, dont defend with this crap. Definite raise flop with this hand. As played, 150ish on the turn to set up the river.

this hand is a disaster from start to finish.


Fine with the initial raise, but fold to the 3 bet. yuo know that. don't try to get out of hearing about it. It was a dumb play.

Flop: Why is flatting obvious? Raise for value. If you can't see this then you need to stop and review some more basic things. Even against AA you're almost exactly 50/50. Especially when he bets dark he gets to decide if you're trying to mess with him.

Turn: Whatever keep betting. You should have played it all different to begin with.

The thing is:
We could change this hand to be JTss and no one would tell you to fold pre.
And that's all well and good.
And it plays basicly the exact same here.

But if you are defending with J7s here, then you are likely defending way too wide to 3bets with stacks that are too short. And it might be ok in this spot, maybe (but I doubt it) but you are likely bleeding money in other similar spots if you are defending with 70%+ of your button raising range. That's going to catch up to you pretty shortly (if it hasn't already).
So sure, we get our selves a good flop, but think about how much value you're losing in other spots like this.

Now that that is out of the way:
Why do you think that the flop is an obvious call?

Will he literally never fold an over pair?
Will he literally never call with anything that isn't XXss or better?

If that's the case, you obviously know his pretty well.
So what what will he do with an over pair with a spade on the turn if you raise? Jam?
What about an over pair without a spade if you raise? Jam?

You're def burning a huge hole in your pocket pre flop if you can't answer these questions about his tendencies.

Raise flop vs. his dark c-bet. You're well ahead of his range (equity-wise) here with TP+FD:

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: Jd5s4s
Equity Win Tie
MP2 73.63% 73.57% 0.06% { Js6s }
MP3 26.37% 26.31% 0.06% { TT+, ATs+, ATo+ }

After he bets turn, we have a clear value raise. Sizing depends on reads. If he can't fold an overpair, then shove. Otherwise, make it $115-125 and shove all non-spade rivers.

Barf...OTF I would probably raise with the intention of GII. Now you need to raise OTT or you could ship...it's not gonna be fun if you flat OTT and he has the redraw.


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I don't think his 3b range is wide at all considering he did it from the sb. Nutted range already posted.

I missed stack size at first.

Meh prob should fold to 3! But whatever.

Against TT+ AQ+ we are 28% getting 2:1. I assume v perceives our btn open range to be at least somewhat wide. We have position and can sometimes win postflop when v whiffs.

I take the worst of it on occasion defending my opens. So I'm not gonna pf cop it.

I woulda raised flop.

Getting max is fairly trivial after that.

fold to his 3bet ainec

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