1/2 $300-450 stacks.

LJ opens $10, I flat in HJ with A3cc, BTN, SB and BB flat.. mostly loose passive fit or fold

Flop ($50): 874cch
2 checks, LJ cbets $15, all call

Turn ($125): 2h
LJ bets another weak-ass sizing of $25

Once everybody else in the hand just flats the tiny cbet OTF, I don’t think anyone has a hand better than 1p based on how they’ve been playing since the last one hour I’ve been at the table. Since the turn changes nothing and H has a snug image, H raises to $125.

BTN kid is all frustrated and tank-folds, SB quickly calls, all others fold. I instantly put him on some type of SD+FD type hand, because he’s not stupid to play any made hand this way based on reads.

River ($400): 7d
He quickly checks, Hero ?? (We have $300 behind)

What do you guys do here and why?

Flatting first in with weak suited aces is a money-loser, so I fold preflop (unless I know that the opener can fold to three-bets, in which case suited ace-wheel is an excellent candidate for a 3-bet bluff, in that it blocks AA and has straight and nut flush equity if called).

As played, we have an awkward stack size on the river, as pretty much any value hand that calls our turn raise has to call our shove. I think I would have raised smaller on the turn, something like $60 to $80, making the pot on the river $240 to $280, and leaving us with $345 to $365 in our stack, leaving us with enough to overbet-shove.

Dude we have 300 behind

I prob shove OTR as played. I just call turn thought.

We have *only* 300 behind. Pot is 400.

I like a fold pre. If we were in later position then reads would factor but in a vacuum pitch it.

On the river play your read is that villain is aggressive with made hands and smart enough to not call down with weak made hand mw. So it's a question of how many weak pair+draw combos. Think about what he'd flat pre with that has a solid draw on turn (flop probably doesn't narrow it down much) and run the number of combos call a bluff. If he has a naked low card draw your fine to check back, but you need to shove to make the weak paired+missed draw hands fold. So you gotta figure out how many extra folds you induce vs how many combos you value own yourself against by shoving. Does your shove generate that many better hands to fold to make the risk work it?

Btw turn is a 2 of bricks. What are we repping?

Ck back, call turn raise is ridiculous.

Check
You beat every single missed draw
And if he got stubborn with top pair on turn he is more likely to do so on river too.

I'd rather shove and get tank-called by 7xhh than check back and see him shake his head and say I missed, then slowroll you with A6hh after you show first to be nice even though it was on him to show, then have to see him act like a dolt trying to figure out if his 6 plays or not.

In all seriousness though, I think the amount of pair+FD combos that will fold to a shove far outweigh the JThh type hands that you beat. Hell, he may even tank-fold a 7xhh here.

I like the way you played the hand though and agree with your thinking, he should never have a straight and almost never have a full house given his line. Someone brought up what are you repping here? And I agree that your line does look a bit bluffy, but you could certainly have some flopped set/straight slow plays in your range. And besides, fit or fold passive players aren't on this level of thinking anyways.

I’m confortable just giving up the hand by now.
We have been calling for odds and implied odds to hit our flush.
There is no problem to just give up, but I doubt our ace will ever win AP.

If you want to put some more variance into your results, than a Jam is fine too.
7x could be folding (don’t think he have one. It seens more like OP or 8x.

fold pre

as played
you wished to donk off your stack so why ask now ?

Wow, were you at the table dude?

Ya. You still have a little showdown value here. So take it


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Check IMO.

Flatting pre is way -EV. 3bet to 25-30 If you want to play.

I agree fold is best in a 2/5 game but in a 1/2 game for $10 where everyone plays ATC pre? How bad can a suited ace be?

I also 3 bet or fold pre. Has to be a really weird game dynamic for me to ever flat here.

We have a pretty shitty river bluff candidate as we block draws and not value but I think we can get a lot of folds against SB here if we jam. The fact that he quickly called on the turn makes me want to jam river even more.