If you're ever going to take a b/b/b line as a bluff or semibluff, then IMO you should be taking the b/b/b line here for value.

Saw the results but was going to say:

OTT, the J kind of kills the action. It's not as obvious as when we have a set on a Ks Js Tx and a ton of turn cards will kill the action. But what do we beat once the J hits? Pretty much all we beat was KJ and KT. The board was dry as possible ott. It's possible but unlikely V2 plays AK this passively/slowly. But we lose to AK and beat KJ, KT pretty much, planning on seeing AK less often than the other two. So once the J hits we only beat KT, tie KQ, lose to KJ, and AK won't come out from V2's card protector too often and we beat nothing. I like the turn check.

But given that, once the T hits otr we beat nothing. Maybe V2 2pair mines or trips mines with A7, although if people do that, they don't mine to the river. They call otf and will fold to a barrel ott. So the $80 otr only value owns ourselves.

Don't be results oriented though. The pot ott and otr are the same since the turn checked through. So if V2 is calling ott but not otr, it's not a sizing thing, it's just to 2pair mine. So if that's one of his sick plays, just wait for his $ in later hands.

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Why are we flatting a raise in the straddle with KQ going 5 ways?
Why are we donk bombing this flop with the PFR yet to act? What are you going to do if the PFR raises your donk bet?

PFR was the SB, and he checked the flop. Not a donk bet.


I agree there is a lot of merit to 3-betting preflop. In game I decided to flat because I hadn't seen V1 raise from the blinds yet and I was a bit wary of him.