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Old 06-23-2014, 10:24 PM   #1
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1/2 live line check

Hero is btn +1 $280
Villain is btn $350

V has only been at table about 30mins but has nott yet seen a hand he doesn't lile

Hero has Ad Kh
hero raises to $12 only villain calls.
flop Qd 6s 10d
hero bets $15 and villain raises to $45. Hero calls.
turn is Jd. Hero checks villain bets $75. What should hero's move be here?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:31 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 live line check

call
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:45 PM   #3
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Jam.

Usually the Button +1 is called the SB
Describe the way you've been playing and how the Villain has been playing.
Tell us what happened PF. We don't know if every single player at the table limped in, or if it got folded around to the button who limped before your PF raise from the blinds.
I'm not sure I bet this flop, but it's heads up and you have the betting lead so it can't be bad. There's lots of value to be had from FDs so long as you're willing to fire multiple barrels. Although, I don't like the 1/2 Cbet since I'm really just looking for a fold here. 3/4 pot seems much better. Concerning his raise you're getting around 3-1 with two overs and a gut shot so it's not bad, but this is the part where having reads on the Villain would be helpful. OTT BINGO!!! Lead out. You don't want this to get checked though otherwise it's gonna be very hard to get stacks in with your nuttish hand. My turn decision would, again, be based off reads on the Villain but unless this guy is a super Nit this is an easy call. And maybe even if he is... I'd have to double check the river odds. Lastly, add up the pot size on each street. It makes it easier for people to understand the hand and you'll get better responses since you don't make potential posters do the work that you should.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:45 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 live line check

c/r turn all in
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:08 PM   #5
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Re: 1/2 live line check

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V has only been at table about 30mins but has nott yet seen a hand he doesn't lile
Anymore relevant info on V? Has he been primarily aggressive or passive? Any hand gone to show down?

I don't know what to do on this flop. But given your descrip of V, and that we have two-overs, a BD nut flush draw and a gutter, I'm ok with calling to reeval turn.

You called and got there. Can't fold now, even with a potential flush out. Call, raising likely folds out the portion of his range we beat.

If the board doesn't four flush OTR, I have no idea what to do if he ships, call and hope, I guess.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:23 PM   #6
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Re: 1/2 live line check

after villains bet of $75 turn he has already put in close to 50% of the effective stacks... an average 1/2 player that isn't a nit is not gonna fold out for the rest after doing that.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:41 AM   #7
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Re: 1/2 live line check

Ad is such a wonderful card to have here. I don't care how much, but raise.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:44 PM   #8
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an average 1/2 player that isn't a nit is not gonna fold out for the rest after doing that.
Good point.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:24 PM   #9
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Re: 1/2 live line check

You mentioned within the 30 minutes V has been at the table has not seen any cards he doesn't like, so I will assume he has played just about every hand dealt to this point. Has he shown the goods? Show any bluffs? This would be some good info to help sort out where to go.

AP, the turn is a gem and I would GII. Straight with a nut FD is a sweet spot IMO. He may have completed his flush OTT, but he may also have the low end straight which you crush. He has committed almost 1/2 his stack OTT and I doubt he is folding OTR. I think you're ahead more often than not right here if V really is a loose player.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:03 PM   #10
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easy jam and I would be feeling great about it. You crush his range. Heck, you crush his value only range.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:17 PM   #11
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:43 PM   #12
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Re: 1/2 live line check

What was your thought process otf? Before you bet and before you called?
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