1/2 € live deep AJ tough decision on riv
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1/2€ live deep cash game
Utg +1 (good reg taglish style sometime loosen up when situation is good)
Co (weak reg pretty loose always limp call and open pretty light)
Hero ( good reg taglish)
Here is the hand:
Hero start with 400 and all villain cover me
Utg+1 limp in
Co isolate to 12
Hero AJo on but flat
Utg+1 flat as well
Flop: AK5r (39)
Utg+1 check, co cb 24, hero flat, utg+1 flat
Turn: 3 (111)
All check to hero who bet 62, utg+1 flat, co fold.
River: J (235)
Utg+1 lead 150
Hero?
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What kind of EP range do we put UTG+1. My only limping range from that spot is small pairs. His play seems fishy with 55, but it's possible. What about KJ/A3/A5/AJ? These hands seem likely too. I think I have to pay this off because I think we have to discount a lot of the hands that beat you like AA/KK/AK/33/QT. I would not be entirely surprised to see 55, but KJ or A3 seem possible.
I hate playing AJo when I'm not the preflop raiser. I suppose the button flat is OK if CO is really raising a lot of worse hands, but against a more straightforward raising range I'm pitching this preflop.
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Call river. Only thing I don't like is pre. Prefer you raise/fold pre.
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Preflop flat is standard. You're ahead of villains opening range, and behind his 3b continuing range. Just flat and play IP in a likely multi-way pot, where we can expect him to play pretty straightforward.
Turn bet is very very very thin. EP Tag can have 55/A5/A3 very often here and is unlikely to x/c with ATs-, and we're probably about 50/50 against COs range of hands that will even vaguely consider a x/c, have no need whatsoever to protect our hand, and we have a better chance of getting value from AT- once the turn checks through. HU, I think it's a bit on the too thin side; 3-way I think it's pretty spewy.
As played, EP has 4 combos of A5s/A3s and 3 combos of 55. I expect him to just about never have any other hands that beat us. His line is pretty thin with A5/A3 as he has far from the nuts and we'll be very tempted to fold AQ, but I have a hard time folding to 3 combos here.
EDIT: The more I think about it, the harder it is for him to have a worse aces-up, so folding the river is potentially fine here. Since we're at the very top of our range, though, I hate it from GTO perspective.
Last edited by surviva316; 11-09-2014 at 02:14 PM.
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yeah the problem is he is a good player but i am not sure about his limping range ep, a good player should not have weak ace suited from ep limping range right? thats why i want to fold so bad but GTO i called...
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If we are ahead of his preflop raising range we should be raising for value. I'd expect villain's 3-bet calling range in this spot to include a lot of hands that will have to check/fold most flops.
