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04-24-2018 , 01:15 AM
Average stack is around $400 and hero covers. V1 is a younger tricky reg and v2 is an unknown late 30’s guy.

Limp, hero opens AcKh UTG+2 to 15 and gets 4 calls including V1 and V2 in the HJ/CO. Pot:$72.

Flop As 8h 3h.

Hero continues for $45, v1 and v2 call.

Turn Qd

All check.

River:Qs.

Pot: $162
Hero checks to let a missed draw bluff at it, v1 checks. V2 bets $30. I should raise against this sizing right? V2 has about $120 behind.
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04-24-2018 , 01:42 AM
You need to bet the turn. As played making a small river raise is reasonable.
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04-24-2018 , 01:58 AM
Flop is fine, but I would bet 125-150 on turn to setup for reasonable river shove. You have TPTK and get can get called by much worse at 1/2. AP, your hand is very under-repped so put v2 all in.
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04-24-2018 , 04:14 AM
Folding is clearly not an option here. Despite the hearts QQ helps you. I would lead out on river for 60. I really don't mind the checked turn myself though.
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04-24-2018 , 05:44 AM
meh I'd call it off. I don't like checking turn. I feel like QhXh, AK and worse AX are Vs ranges. I dont like going to war at 1/2 with TPTK and your hand isnt that underrepped like that other guy said, its actually pretty face up.
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04-24-2018 , 06:06 AM
With two callers on the flop, you need to bet the turn. The odds got higher that someone has a FD.

As played to the river, you should have made a 1/2 PSB. The $30 polarizes his range to bluffs or the near nuts. If he's bluffing, clearly he's not going to call a raise. If he has the near nuts, you're beat and at best he's going to call, at worst, put you all in. Call and see what he had.
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04-24-2018 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Limpfoldjj
Hero checks to let a missed draw bluff at it, v1 checks. V2 bets $30. I should raise against this sizing right? V2 has about $120 behind.
Umm...you're checking to let a missed draw bluff at the pot, then you get a bet like you wanted, and you want to raise? If you raise a guy bluffing a missed draw he's just going to fold. On the other hand if he's betting a Q he calls you. I don't see him betting any hands you beat in this spot, and on the rare chance he does he's not calling a x/r.

Checking the river to induce bluffs is usually not a good idea because people don't bluff enough at this level. They're much more likely to call you down light than bet light, so I would prefer a bet/fold OTR vs a x/c but a x/r is crazy. You should bet the river for value because you beat all 2p now and the draws missed, but AX is likely to call you thinking it's a chop.

Also bet the turn. The Q doesn't really complete anything that called you OTF and beats you besides AQ and that's all of 6 combos. OTOH there are a number of QhXh draws that now have a pair. Yeah, betting there's a slight chance you value own yourself but more likely you charge the draws to continue. Note busted flush draws are not calling the river so you really have to bet the turn.
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04-24-2018 , 11:51 AM
Piling on only because it's so true:

Bet turn. AP call river, raising is spew.
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04-24-2018 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
With two callers on the flop, you need to bet the turn. The odds got higher that someone has a FD.

As played to the river, you should have made a 1/2 PSB. The $30 polarizes his range to bluffs or the near nuts. If he's bluffing, clearly he's not going to call a raise. If he has the near nuts, you're beat and at best he's going to call, at worst, put you all in. Call and see what he had.
+1 turn/river advice.

AP, though I likely just call in real time too, why not raise this river? Our line looks FOS, & we lose to basically nothing. I don't think their range is as polarized as you think. V definitely has some AJ-A9/Axs that pot controlled turn, that are now going for thin value, that will likely call off @ a high enough % to be profitable for less than a PSB. If he folds, who cares? We run into Qxhh or a tricky 88/33 so rarely & are committing in a pot size that only requires 33% equity anyhow.
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04-24-2018 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
You need to bet the turn. As played making a small river raise is reasonable.
+1. Make it $60 on the river. A weaker Ace may like the odds to call, hoping it's a chop.

Opponent is almost never checking turn with top two or a set.
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04-24-2018 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by samo
+1. Make it $60 on the river. A weaker Ace may like the odds to call, hoping it's a chop.

Opponent is almost never checking turn with top two or a set.
Do you think he would always bet the turn with QhXh?
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04-24-2018 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Do you think he would always bet the turn with QhXh?
Even if we think they have a mixed strategy w/ Qxhh, it's only like 4-5 combos total, so discounted we're talking 2 combos @ most on this river, & a fair amount of Ax that played turn a bit timid. That's why I'd shove personally (less than pot if OP is correct), as I think at least 3 combinations of Ax hero call us here.
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04-24-2018 , 11:23 PM
This is the perfect 3 street board. Once the Q pairs on the river, most Ax will call thinking they're chopping

Generally, the lower the stakes, the less you should check rather than go for fat value. You missed about 100-150 value OTT and 200-250 value OTR

Tl;dr: this is too fancy for 1/2
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04-25-2018 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Do you think he would always bet the turn with QhXh?
There's only 2-3 combos perhaps (QJ/QT/Q9). There are many more AX combos. I also think trip Q goes for more value OTR.
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