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01-19-2015 , 06:17 PM
V1 – 70 + year old man. Sat down about an hour ago and has not played any hands of note other than raising AQ to $15 pre flop and taking down a pot on an Ace high flop. He has a $300 stack as does the hero.

H – Late 20s white male. V has seen H reload from $100 to $300 after losing $90ish dollars with KQ vs. AQ on a Q high board. H was pre flop raiser and V called out of the blinds and the line was donk bet/call for 1/3 pot on each street. This is likely the only read the new villain has on the hero.

The hand in question:
UTG +1 limps, CO limps, BTN limps, Hero limps in SB with 88 (sometimes I consider raising in this spot but I have been playing very conservatively pre flop from the small blind lately). Villian checks the BB.

Pot ($10)
Flop 6 5 2

I lead for $10. Now I know the phrase “Tanks” gets thrown out there a lot these days, but the older gentleman who is our villain thinks for about 45 seconds before committing his $10 to the pot. He knew it was on him the entire time so it was a real tank and not him losing track of the action. The first 2 limpers fold and the button who is a very loose player tosses in the $10 as well.

Pot: ($40)
Turn: 6 5 2 Q

Hero leads for $40. Thoughts on the lead out and pot-sized bet? I’m not worried about the Q showing up in the old man’s range but it is possible the loose button limper overcalled with Q9, QT, QJ, etc.
Villain calls the $40 after about only 5 seconds of deliberation this time. Button snap folds.

Pot ($120)
River: 6 5 2 Q 8

So we are now crushing all of the villain’s 2 pairs, pair of 6s, pair of Qs, missed gutshots. Backdoor clubs made it and so did 74 and 79. Do you prefer a lead for value here? If so, why and what bet size? Do we take a check/call line? If we check are we missing out on value from 65, 52, 62, Q6, Q5, Q2, hands? Old man is never ever going to bluff the river on a missed straight draw if I check to him on this river.
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01-19-2015 , 06:27 PM
Why did you pot the turn? Is 77 really calling there? I would check a lot and just go for 2 streets.

As played weeeeeeeeeee. $100
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01-19-2015 , 06:33 PM
Against this type V. I usually keep the pot small unless I have the nut.

Turn: I might just check/Fold
River:Bet/Fold
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01-19-2015 , 07:08 PM
Bet for value. 74 is the only hand we're losing to that got there. 34 could be slow playing the whole time, I suppose. V is BB, yes? Q6 is in his range and will payo off a bet, as is 56. Even OMC was prob raising a set before now, so not much chance of set over set. I go $80, but anything from 60-95 is prob fine.

Snap folding to a raise from this V.
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01-19-2015 , 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Why did you pot the turn? Is 77 really calling there? I would check a lot and just go for 2 streets.

As played weeeeeeeeeee. $100
I agree the pot size bet might be bad. I think all of his lone 6s are folding $40 but may call $20-25. I think my reasoning at the time was influenced by his long tank for a measly $10. Input on what he is tanking with for $10 is much appreciated.
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01-19-2015 , 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garick
Bet for value. 74 is the only hand we're losing to that got there. 34 could be slow playing the whole time, I suppose. V is BB, yes? Q6 is in his range and will payo off a bet, as is 56. Even OMC was prob raising a set before now, so not much chance of set over set. I go $80, but anything from 60-95 is prob fine.

Snap folding to a raise from this V.
Yes he was in the big blind. So you are right, I shouldn't be so quick to discount the Queen being in his two pair range as well as possibly being in the button's range.
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01-20-2015 , 09:13 AM
Thanks for the input so far. River action was
Spoiler:
I led for $75 and villain snap called and rolled over 73 for a flopped gutter ball and runner runner clubs. I still feel checking on this river is the wrong move despite the results. I do think I could have lowered my turn bet or even checked the turn some of the times.
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