1/2:

Can you guys critique my hand?

V1 - older asian man. limps ~90% of hands. very passive and mostly calls. sometimes spazzes and shows aggression. the majority of all prior aggressive moves have been bluffs

V2 - middle aged black man. raises PF ~25% of hands and limps another 25%. cbets nearly pfr pots. relatively aggressive if he makes a cbet.

hand
Hero has $400
V1 has $400. Down from $700-800 in the past orbit or two.
V2 has $300. On his 4th buy-in that I've seen. In addition to spewing chips everywhere, he's ran in the nuts a few hands. I'm sure he's a bit steamy.

PF
EP limp
V1 (MP) limps
V2 (CO) limps
BTN limp
Hero (SB) raise $15 with 88
V1 calls, V2 calls

Note: the table has been the standard weak-tight limpy 1/2 table. Aside from V2, there's hardly been any PF raises. My standard raise has been in the $12-$18 range as that was mostly successful in getting the hand 2-3 handed PF.

Flop
9 3 3 rainbow
Hero bets $27
V1 calls, V2 calls

Turn
9 3 3 + 8
Hero bets $47
V1 calls, V2 calls

River
9 3 3 + 8 + 6
Hero tanks and shoves $325
V1 calls, V2 calls

obv, I lost the hand. I wondering if there's any way I could've walked away from this or could've played the hand differently. thoughts?

You could have played it differently, but your goal should have been to get all the chips in, or as many as possibly at least, into the pot. With that said... How much is the pot OTR? I don't think that shoving in this spot is optimal, since 3x raises a regular bet anyway, and 9x mostly folds.

i'd generally limp in pre OOP with that hand though a raise is fine. i'd prefer a raise to $18 or $20 but at that table $15 seems fine. flop bet is great. $27 into $51 is standard. turn you bet $47 into $101. you can bet bigger here. betting $55 up to $70 is good. you shoved $325 into $195 on river. i think your bet is too big here and gets too many folds.

its highly unlikely anyone has an overpair here so their most likely hand is 9x. you want to bet $100 or so to get a call from most of their range here.

its not obvious you lost the hand. sometimes you should even post hands you win to make sure you played it well. regardless, this is a cooler here. sorry someone had 9s full. you should never even consider folding here (unless you're 500bb deep or more) with what is essentially the second nuts.

meh I'd probably check the flop since you are in a WA/WB spot against two people. On the turn you hit gin and you bet way too small IMO. I'd probably bet bigger of $80-85 to again get value from TP and maybe hands you were losing before such as TT and A3 since the pot is $130. As played I would have not overbet the river because your turn bet was so small that the pot (~190) is too small to make such an overbet. (Note: by betting bigger on the turn and assuming both villains called the turn the pot (~300) would be perfect for an overbet. As played, I probably would have gone around $125 to get a call from a TP hand that a villain could be holding, especially V1. Chalk it up to a cooler, sry you lost.

I have a problem with your bet sizing. Here are the pot sizes for this hand:

flop: $48
turn: $129
river: $270

Your flop bet is a a bit too small, I'd like to see a $30-$35 bet here.
Ott, you only bet almost 1/3 of the pot, bet more, like around $70-$75
otr, at this point, you can just shove here for psb, hoping one of the Vs will stack off with trip 3s or 3s full.

Sick that one of the V had 33 or 99

Okay. It sounds like the hand was somewhat of a cooler.

Below is a brief rationale for the bet sizing:
Cbet: This is standard, and I was betting for value mostly. Both villains are huge calling stations and can call/float very wide.

Turn: I purposely bet smaller here to under-represent my hand and hope for another call (which isn't out of line of how they've been playing, esp. V1). This will give them a chance to catch up a bit on the river or have more confidence in their 9.

River: After looking at the Vs, I decided to bomb it. I figured at least one of them had a 3 and wouldn't be able to fold it. It is 1/2 after all, and neither of these guys had no concept of relative hand strength. I also felt that the V1 would call wider with a 9+decent kicker or overpair.

Anyway, thanks for the thoughts.

I think I'd also limp here for the combined reasons that you're OOP and the one V is spewy/tilting. If you didn't catch an 8 on the turn, and the V is being spewy/sticky/aggro/whatever, what would you have done then OOP with middle pair to the paired board (possibly facing A9 at least or A3, 99)? You also said that the table wasn't raising much pf at all, so you could even include 1010-QQ in those pf limps. At some super passive tables, I've even seen players limp KK-AA IP. The point is, against players at a table with these dynamics, you're often going to be lost OOP with 88, and the only reason this became an issue in this hand is because you hit your gin card on the turn.

I'd often limp here too, but no problem with the preflop raise.

Once you raise pre, you have to bet this flop. Anyone saying to check flop is crazy. You're going to get folds on this flop a really high percentage of the time. And if you'd bet AK here, you should be betting 88.

I'd bet the turn a lot bigger once you got two callers on the flop. Not many hands that villains will call flop with and fold turn to (and you did get 2 calls). There's no way any 3 is folding and if villain called flop with a 9, why would they fold on this turn (they don't seem like the type to fold TP). Pot is like $130 on the turn, bomb it for $100+.

River is fine, I'd probably shove too. I'd expect to get looked up by any 3. Ran into a cooler, **** happens.

jbl

Once the turn hits you are never getting away from this hand. There are a few things I would do diff.

I would consider limping if the opponents who limp have a tendency to call raises once they limp.

OTF: once it's 3 handed I like a bet here, hoping to get floated by overcards and called by smaller pocket pairs 44-77


OTT: at this point it is clear one of the Vs has a 3 or better and the other probably has a 9 or maybe TT. So with this being said I would go for a check raise once your gin card hits. Your bet of 47 into ~140 is very small and won't allow you to get stacks in otr.

River: your shove is large (over pot sizes bet) which against bad players is fine because a bad amatuer is never ever folding a 3 here. But when you just get flat called twice by 2 people it is very likely the second flat caller has a monster, 33 or 99. Even with that being said unless you have some kind of inhuman soul reading ability you aren't folding 88 on this board.

I thought played fine start to finish.... just a cooler.