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06-22-2019 , 09:45 PM

SpinzFTW

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 329

Just switched tables - saw main villain make a play in previous hand with Q6 mp. He sits at $450.

OTTH

Hero (475) utg 1dealt KQo - raises to $8

Co, BTN, Sb, BB flat

Flop ($32) Kh Qs 5d

SB leads $13 I repop to $45 villian flats

Turn ($120) 4h SB checks I bet $60 villain flats

River Ah ($240) villain leads $100

Hero ??

Last edited by SpinzFTW; 06-22-2019 at 10:14 PM.

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06-22-2019 , 10:16 PM

Thamel18

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,161

Should only be $40 in the pot on the flop (8 times 5). Turn bet is a tad small into a pot that would be $130, I prefer a size like $85-95. River sucks, but we only need to be good ~22.3% of the time so it seems like a call.

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06-23-2019 , 02:08 AM

Jarretman

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,937

What are the suits of your KQ, it matters for the river, kind of (in practice probably just always folding is best)

Bet more on turn.

River I think we can comfortably fold as played or jam if we have the Qh. Calling is the worst option. We are up against AQ/AK, JT, and some Qxhh all day here. I doubt he's bluffing T9 Qx J9 type hands ever or has ATss type enough to make calling good.

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06-23-2019 , 02:39 PM

Amanaplan

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Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,628

Can’t imagine raising against someone bad enough that I would consider calling in the first place. He can have worse two pair, AJ/AT, and some bad Kx that prefers to just bet. Clearly you can lose but can’t fold - more ott too.

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06-24-2019 , 03:41 PM

SpinzFTW

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Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 329

Tank called and villain flips over J10.

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06-24-2019 , 05:16 PM

Jarretman

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Originally Posted by SpinzFTW

Tank called and villain flips over J10.

ya this is a bad call results or not

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06-24-2019 , 05:23 PM

SABR42

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23,065

Fold pre.

Bet $150 on the turn.

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06-25-2019 , 09:17 AM

the_dude_174

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Originally Posted by SABR42

Fold pre.

Bet $150 on the turn.

Is this an automatic fold pre for you? I'm assuming a lot of posters with less skill than yourself will want to play this hand despite being utg. I snap fold this 9 handed fwiw but I'm a rec-fish.

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06-25-2019 , 09:51 AM

Ollieeeee

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 971

Sigh call I guess

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06-25-2019 , 12:11 PM

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SABR42

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Originally Posted by the_dude_174

Is this an automatic fold pre for you? I'm assuming a lot of posters with less skill than yourself will want to play this hand despite being utg. I snap fold this 9 handed fwiw but I'm a rec-fish.

I mean at weak-passive tables you can make it work, but you're not missing out on much by folding KQo from EP. At tougher tables you really have to be careful opening too wide from EP because you get 3-bet too often and this just becomes unprofitable.

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06-25-2019 , 12:30 PM

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Ragequit99

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Fold preflop, fold river.

Clearly $8 is not big enough when opening from EP.

As played I'd raise bigger on flop and I'd go 3/4 of pot on turn.

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06-25-2019 , 02:39 PM

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Jarretman

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Originally Posted by SABR42

While this is true, this is never true at 1/2 live.

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06-26-2019 , 07:03 PM

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Minatorr

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5,235

Grunch

Just fold river, you beat 0 value and someone always has J10, plus he can have random hearts

KQo can fold utg + 1, if you wanna open 4x is pretty bad sizing

Way bigger ott

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06-26-2019 , 07:45 PM

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ralphykid67

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 439

+1 for fold pre. Needs to be a very nitty/passive table of basically all OMCs for me to want to open this in EP.

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