1/2 on a Tuesday night. Game is playing reasonably loose aggressive with one competent player to my right. V to my direct right is a late 30s Chinese guy who is not afraid to apply pressure in spots. Can also make laysdowns. V and I don't have too much history tho.

Hand in question I have $215. V has $800.

Limped around 5 ways including the V on the button. I make it $16 to go from the sb with KQo.

4 callers including V. ~$65 in the pot.

Flop Qs9d2h

I lead for $30. Only v calls. $120 in the pot and I have $170 behind.

Turn: 6h

In this spot now I actually didn't want to blow the V off the hand with a double barrel and figured if I checked to him he'd fire a bet. I check and he makes it $45 to go.

I decide to just call and jam pretty well all rivers hoping to make my hand possibly look like a bluff and get called by worse. I think V is capable of making a read that I missed a draw or whiffed AK and am trying to steal.

River is a blank 5.

I shove.

I have a feeling this line will not be popular.

I like it with this board texture

He'd have to really level himself into calling I think.

His turn bet sizing is either super weak or super strong.

I'm guessing your shove only gets called by better.

But I don't dislike it.

KQo feels a little light to be raising pre OOP. You say the game is loose aggressive - so you're not likely to be dropping (m)any players with your $16. I'd prefer a big bet ($25) to get it 2 or 3 way - or a check to go multi-way.

Decent flop. Not likely to be any AQ's lurking... and it's the kind of flop that lots of hands can get a piece of. Prefer a bigger bet 45/50 to bring along weaker Qx and drop gutshots.

Creative turn play. I think I'd have just bet out turn (sizing to have it a shove). But I think your line works.

Standard line is probably to just limp preflop. Occasionally I will bomb a trouble hand there if I know it's going HU or nothing.

Flop if you bet just a little more you can shove turn. If you aren't excited about getting all in then you shouldn't have any plans to put more money in on your own. Jamming river seems bad. If your plan was to get all in there are better ways to go. And if it isn't then you shouldn't have gotten there.

I think I see a disconnect between your flop play and the rest of the hand.

I guess imo, I wouldn't be making that raise pre flop given the nature of the table. The goal of that play is to be able to see a flop with maybe 1 or 2 players. When the table is lag like you said, that kind of play doesn't really narrow the field like we need and also creates a poor c bet bluffing situation on most flops as there are so many players. Personally, I would just limp in this spot and see a flop with card edge or fold given that I'm taking a trouble hand oop. Kind of nitty but there's certainly nothing wrong with it.Don't mind the way the hand was played post except for maybe just leading something like 65 or 70 on the turn. It sets up a shove size on the river that could still get called by a sticky top pair hand where as a check call ott and a shove otr makes us use kind of a bigger size that will most likely get better to call and worse to fold.


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Playing KQo OOP in a 6-way limped pot is a pretty horrible outcome IMO. I am always raising KQo out of the blinds when it's limped to me. Sure we may be "behind" some random A5s or 66 crap that people limp/call with but that doesn't mean they will be able to continue on most flops.

Is it really preferable to just taking a bet/bet/shove line of 30/60/110? Half-pot sized bets are enough to lull in QJ/QT on this board.

After he flatted the flop cbet I wanted to get all the money in I was just trying to figure out how. I think the guy is good enough to lay down QJ, QT to a big double barrell, putting me on KK,AA. We played a session together the previous day where he made what seemed like a tough turn fold after I double barrelled with a set of kings.

I played the hand the way that I did because I wanted him to try and think about my line making no sense and find a call with QJ, QT, random 9s, 88, 77.

I really do think he folds QJ to a double barrel of $60 or more.

^ Pre was too small however. I would have bumped it up to $20.

Cool turn ck, but ck-shove>ck-c, ck riv>ck-c, shove riv especially when trying to compete with the EV of...

Preflop strategy depends on limpers' ranges ldmfo. If we're going for a big size/polarized strategy, this hand probably falls between the poles, but this is 1/2NL and it's a mother****ing zoo where everyone is capable of anything at all times, so I'd probably keep it straightforward and just vbet vbetting hands for a reasonable size.

Turn play is good. If we feel like we can bluff with dry AK here (and I think we can on this dream of a board given preflop action and our opponent), then we can go for 100% bet strat, but in a vacuum, I like checking this hand. Betting overreps our hand against anyone who doesn't suck, and checking at least gives him a prayer of thinking he has a chance to steal the pot away from our cbet bluffs.

I'd shove over the $45, though. Then again, I've kind of been having a theory meltdown lately and can't think of any reason why we should ever have a turn flatting range OOP against a competent opponent with a <1 SPR and any kind of dynamism on the board. It seems so obviously wrong, and yet I can't ever figure out a range we can form that makes us outplay villain for remaining EVs.