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1/2  KQ turn decision 1/2  KQ turn decision

09-06-2019 , 02:01 PM
1/2, 9 handed, $350 effective. Hero probably has a looser end of TAG image. Hero has been folding to a lot of strength - i.e. folded both times on the flop when lead into on unfavorable flops and folded the only time he was x-r on flop on a more neutral board. I would classify villain as the loose end of TAG as well, and solid for a 1/2 player.

OTTH

Hero opens K♥️ Q♥️ $15 UTG, villain calls LJ, and fish calls BB.

Flop ($46): K♦️T♦️ 6♠️. BB checks, hero bets $30, villain calls and BB folds.

Turn ($106): 5♣️. Hero bets $80, villain raises to $200 with $105 behind. Hero? Turn raises at 1/2 tend to be laughably nutted, but what can villain have? AA, KK, and AK 3 bet pre every time, I'm not sure about TT, and so there's potentially 3 combos of TT, for sure three combos of 66, and two combos of KTs for value. Bluffs I would assume he has three combos of QJs, and maybe A♦️ Q♦️, A♦️J♦️, 9♦️8♦️, 8♦️7♦️, 7♦️6♦️, I really don't know how wide he's calling pre, deep stacked. Also, wouldn't we expect a hand like KT or a set to raise flop?
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09-06-2019 , 02:24 PM
Big draws always make their move on the flop so I would discount all of those. Weird spot. I guess we just have to put him on TT/66/AK, assume he just wanted a card to peel off and fold.

You know him better then I do but I sometimes call tight UTG players with AK pre.
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09-06-2019 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AAJTo
Big draws always make their move on the flop so I would discount all of those.
+1 it just seems like a wierd turn to start bluffing a draw. Especially with so little behind. Like hes obviously not folding if you jam. If he wanted a fold i think he would have went all in. I think hes just going for thin value with a hand like AK. Possibly springing the trap with a flopped set? I think its a sigh fold. Youve got better hands to call off with.

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09-06-2019 , 02:50 PM
Wow, with your image, this is tough. However, he bet enough to let you know that he's committed. I guess he could have Ad5d or some silly hand like that, but you are probably beat.

That, or you are easy to read
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09-06-2019 , 02:51 PM
I would go for x/c ott vs bet. Our hand is strong but we also have AA,AK,KK,TT ,KTs,KJs,QJs. I would check this turn with KQ and KJ for pot control. Especially against a reggish type player. Hes going to bet his draws as a semibluff and could even bet a hand like QQ ( highly unlikely but a higher prob than him calling a second barrel) and we get extra value from his weaker range.

As played I fold faster than he can get his money out there. Were at the bottom of our value range (KJ is actual bottom) no reason to overplay it here

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09-06-2019 , 03:02 PM
Check/call and bet/fold both seem reasonable.
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09-06-2019 , 10:31 PM
Well, if he showed you QdJd I reckon you have odds to call here. This is the tippy-top of his drawing range. So the real issue is: Could he play a set this way, or poker Gods forbid, AK?

I’m sort of concerned about the preflop dynamic here in this regard. H raises pre and V has some AKo/TT he’d flat in position. Like you, he’s probably not worried about the fish in the blinds.

Therefore, the problem is that we’ve got odds to call against all the draws - maybe 8-10 realistic combos. We’re in bad shape against 6d5d. He also has 6 sets we’re in bad shape against as well as 8 AKo that perhaps we can discount but not dismiss.

I suppose it’s a very close call because we’re behind 15 plausible combos and ahead of maybe 10 draws. We get 3-1 but we’re not loving it because the V’s draws have outs when we’re ahead but when we’re behind we’re drawing very thin. I think it’s almost a coin flip.
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