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1/2  KQ facing heavy flop action 1/2  KQ facing heavy flop action

02-17-2017 , 02:40 AM
Table is a mix of local promo chasing regs and tourist. hero is a tourist as well.

Hero should have a TAG image (if anyone is really looking).

OTTH
V1 (UTG+1) with 320 (60 something guy drinking a diet coke who recently sat down ) opens 12
V2 (HJ) with 160 (old lady seems loose passive from what I've seen so far) calls 12
SB with 280 (30 something guy , seems decent and somewhat tight) calls
Hero with 400 in BB calls with KcQc
(Could raise here but given relative deep stacks elect to call. As we are suited hand isn't bad multi-way)

Flop (48)
Ks 7h 2h
BB checks
Hero checks
V1 bets 25
V2 calls
SB folds
Hero raises to 75 (this seems bad in hindsight as we are oop and can't really feel comfortable playing for stacks with TPGK here)
V1 flat calls 75
V2 sighs and jams for 147 total.
Hero (v2 probably has a draw which gives them 9 to 11-12 outs, v1 is the worry here. If we call and v1 shoves we will be getting little over 4:1 - 160 more into 650 and will have to call)
What should hero do.
Of course raise big pre and don't c/r flop but what now?

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02-17-2017 , 03:21 AM
Bro this is a sick spot but you need to rejam your stack . Like you already know , don't raise flop next time.

I wouldnt 3bet this hand preflop though . Flatting is perfectly fine . Now Just call the flop and see what happens . You could easily be against AK . BUT as played you can't fold here I think
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02-17-2017 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPavelski
Bro this is a sick spot but you need to rejam your stack . Like you already know , don't raise flop next time.

I wouldnt 3bet this hand preflop though . Flatting is perfectly fine . Now Just call the flop and see what happens . You could easily be against AK . BUT as played you can't fold here I think
BigP, you meant he has to raise flop next time correct? As played he did not raise flop...or did you mean don't 3B preflop because I read that after reading down the line on your reply?
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02-17-2017 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RunninMan5K
BigP, you meant he has to raise flop next time correct? As played he did not raise flop...or did you mean don't 3B preflop because I read that after reading down the line on your reply?
As played the hero raised the flop which reopened the action for V2 to 3bet jam his stack . Now hero has no choice but to 4 bet jam the flop and hope V1 either folds or doesnt have AK+
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02-17-2017 , 11:58 AM
Woof, kq is the margin for me, I prolly jam it in here, and fold kj

I don't mind how you played the hand


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02-17-2017 , 12:07 PM
As played, shovel it in.

I agree with just flatting flop, though, although the raise is not terrible in this type of game.
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02-17-2017 , 01:35 PM
What range would you put v1 on when he flats our c/r with a player behind.

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02-17-2017 , 02:41 PM
Hearts and prolly kq+

Edit: the more I think about it ya it's not an ideal spot to be in, I wish stack sizes were a bit shallower so it wouldn't be so bad to commit.

I think there is a nonzero chance he got sticky with JJ or something, although it is a small chance.


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02-17-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by synapse
What range would you put v1 on when he flats our c/r with a player behind.
KJ, KQ, maybe scared AK, hearts. Whatever it is, he should be folding to your jam, unless he's slow-playing KK.
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