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1/2 KK facing all-in on scary flop 1/2 KK facing all-in on scary flop

09-02-2017 , 02:32 AM
Villain 1: tight aggressive
Villain 2: loose, limped when he get Ace pairs up on board, hard to guess his hand range. Call a lot of bet preflop.
Villain 3: no read
Hero: Showed down with AJ and AK. Betting and call reasonable half pot bet even if the flop does not give me a pair. They think I like AJ AQ AK KK AA.

$1/2 NL (8 handed)
MP V1 ($300)
CO V2 ($600)
Button V3($250)
SB Hero ($170)

Hero is dealt KK

V1 raise to $6, V2 calls, V3 calls, Hero re-raise to $25, V1 fold, V2 call, V3 call.
I have to re-raise to reduce the players on flop. V2 is loose and willing to call often preflop.

Flop ($122) 3,2,4
Hero checks, V1 all-in, V2 think for a while, fold, Hero think for a while. V1 stand up and acting impatient. "Faster, I want to go home". I'm putting him on flush or straight draw, which would still gives me 60% winning rate. Want to gamble and call with all my chips.

After river card is shown and before I show my cards. He said, "You have KK?"

Can I do any better? Raise more preflop? My hand range is too obvious (AJ+) so villian does not worry much about me hitting something on that flop. He is willing to all-in on 3 players flop, so less possibility of a bluff? Should I all-in on the flop to represent a nut flush instead of timid checking since I committed quite a number of chips preflop. Should I fold since I does not have nut flush draw?
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09-02-2017 , 04:44 AM
PF Reraise is too small, my minimum 3bet size is 3x their raise + 1x for each flat caller, so here my absolute minimum would be $30, and given you're also in the SB I'd probably go 35.

Flop you're automatically allin, nothing you can do.
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09-02-2017 , 06:57 AM
Pre is way too small, make it 35-40
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09-02-2017 , 07:08 AM
i would have folded here because of his antics. I know a guy that every time he has a HUGE hand he reaches into his pockets to signal a rebuy. It's so obvious when he does it and he always has set or better. I'd put these behaviors into that category.
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09-02-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
PF Reraise is too small, my minimum 3bet size is 3x their raise + 1x for each flat caller, so here my absolute minimum would be $30, and given you're also in the SB I'd probably go 35.

Flop you're automatically allin, nothing you can do.
There is plenty you can do, namely fold.

Agree with others on going bigger preflop
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09-02-2017 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hamster3434
V1 raise to $6, V2 calls, V3 calls, Hero re-raise to $25, V1 fold, V2 call, V3 call.
I have to re-raise to reduce the players on flop. V2 is loose and willing to call often preflop.

Flop ($122) 3,2,4
Hero checks, V1 all-in, V2 think for a while, fold, Hero think for a while. V1 stand up and acting impatient. "Faster, I want to go home". I'm putting him on flush or straight draw, which would still gives me 60% winning rate. Want to gamble and call with all my chips.

After river card is shown and before I show my cards. He said, "You have KK?"

Can I do any better? Raise more preflop? My hand range is too obvious (AJ+) so villian does not worry much about me hitting something on that flop. He is willing to all-in on 3 players flop, so less possibility of a bluff? Should I all-in on the flop to represent a nut flush instead of timid checking since I committed quite a number of chips preflop. Should I fold since I does not have nut flush draw?
If V1 managed to get his cards out of the muck because he is so excited to go all in id fold, but if he still has no cards, he is bluffing so id call.

You should be shipping flop 100% to protect against 1 card FDs.
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09-02-2017 , 10:53 AM
I agree with others' assessment of PF raise needing to be larger. $30

I also agree with Tomark; I'm insta-calling if V1 didn't snatch his cards back from the muck.
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09-02-2017 , 11:44 AM
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Hero checks, V1 all-in, V2 think for a while, fold, Hero think for a while. V1 stand up and acting impatient. "Faster, I want to go home". I'm putting him on flush or straight draw, which would still gives me 60% winning rate. Want to gamble and call with all my chips.
Sorry messed up with the Villian number. V1 already fold pf.
V2 all-in, V3 think for a while, fold, Hero think for a while. V2 stand up and acting impatient. "Faster, I want to go home". He is a loose caller. So have a wide range and maybe bluffing.?

End result. V2 show 22. Connect to the board as set.
KK vs 22 preflop is having 80% winning rate. Guess he is calling on the implied odds that I will pay him well for the set mining.

Since he call big raise preflop. I should raise and reraise more in preflop next time if I have premium hand. I believe I will win in the long run. Is this corrrect?

Last edited by hamster3434; 09-02-2017 at 11:52 AM.
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09-02-2017 , 05:02 PM
Why the flop is scary? -

Even if you give villain 22+, A2s+, all suited Broadways, T9s, AKo, AQo, he will flop a flush, a straight, a straight-flush or a Set only 18.5% of the time. Why the hell are you worry about this nonsense when you have just a short stack? - Go ahead a bet.
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09-02-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
Why the flop is scary? -

Even if you give villain 22+, A2s+, all suited Broadways, T9s, AKo, AQo
he will flop a flush or a straight or a Set only 18% of the time.

Why the hell are you worry about this nonsense when you have just a short stacks? Go ahead a bet.
Hey there Pardner!


$40 pre - ship flop / thread.

As played - meh call or fold are both fine depending on bankroll and live reads.
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