I tanked for a minute or two and folded, and villain turned over 66.
Spoiler:
I was actually villain in this hand. I never saw "hero's" hand, but he had such a tight 3 betting range that was almost certain he had an overpair after he bet turn and that he was folding 100% of his range to a shove. "Hero" probably thought of himself as a tag, but he was really a mubsy nitty 1/2 regular whose game plan was to be on the good side of coolers. Despite the fact that I was raising over 50% of hands in lp over limpers, the only time he 3 bet me, he showed aces after I folded.
A lot of people itt figured out what was up pretty easily. I think one of the first responses along the lines of "your small flop bet kept his range so wide that you can't fold now" pretty much hit the nail on the head.
LLSNL tables are filled with people who wait for unreasonably strong hands to stack fish with, but these players are the biggest fish in the room once stacks get deep and they play against someone who will make them fold after they put 100 bbs in the pot.
But because you've reversed the post you are assuming he had an overpair because he is a nit. Now a lot of people commenting were saying that the betting was too small for an overpair so we have to consider that it wasn't.
Ok you have spotted weakness and capitalised to win with 6-6 but that doesn't demonstrate the point you are making in being able to bluff nits off overpairs because there is no evidence you have done that.
Yeah, this is obv a situation/villain dependent thing. Don't want to make it seem like I think playing a 450 bb pot with a gutshot and underpair is always a good idea against people who know how to fold pre.
But the decision we are making is the final decision in a hand that we would have played differently from the start.
We probably wouldn't have played an overpair this way so would not be at this spot with an overpair to fold it so are not actually folding an overpair to your bluff. We are just folding an overpair that we might have in a spot that your fictitious nit butchered. But that doesn't mean nits who plays overpairs are going to fold their overpairs in this spot or even have overpairs in this spot. (Not even sure I understand that).
On top of that as thinking plays which I assume we all are we are giving advice as a thinking player and not as a nit so our thought process is different and chances are some of those thinking players could figure you out in a live scenario where the nits just think finally I've got my aces now time to collect.
Well, I think the advice on how to play the hand by the people in this thread is useful for how to play overpairs against agressive players, and most people said they would call. As the nit played the hand, calling was the correct play. On the other hand, I'm not sure raising to 65 with AA or KK would be the correct play, as the spewtard is always folding pre.
Last edited by philepistemer; 10-25-2015 at 07:52 PM.
I hate reverse HH threads and they're against the rules of this forum. I wrote the first response ITT that you liked so much OP but it's only valid for villain's hand as KK not as {JJ+, AQs+, spaz}.
Just should show you that your line with 66 is full of crap since 80% of responses say snap.
