BB (£425) seems like a thinking player, feel like I've seen him before so might be a reg, Hero normally plays on weekends and today is a weekday.

UTG (£85) is a fish.

BTN (£300) is a fish. These two have been getting it in pre with JT, AJ, 88 etc with a few other fishy players at the table.

Hero UTG+2 (£800+) just got shoved into 30 minutes ago while holding nut flush AXdd vs KXdd.

Preflop
Hero has Ks7s. Limps all the way round. BB checks.

Flop (£16, 8 players)
8s 6s 2s

Check, BB bets 20, UTG fish calls, Hero calls intending to bet/raise on a blank turn, BTN fish calls.

Turn (£96, 4 players)
8s 6s 2s Kc

BB checks, UTG fish all in £65, Hero calls to avoid scaring away BTN fish, BTN fish calls, BB raises to £165, Hero?

Hero tanks.

BTN fish looks like he's folding, not worried about him at all.

UTG fish is checking his cards super often, and I'm struggling to work out what he'd ship here with. It's possible he has a medium/low flush, or maybe the bare As or two pair.

BB has a little under £250 behind. I'm sure he only does this with QXss or AXss, but at least ATss+ he would probably raise preflop on BB, maybe a bit lower A8ss+ when there's £16 in pot pre, right? Lots of QXss hands he checks pre with though, but would he really x/r the turn with a queen high flush? Hard to say, and my hand is pretty well hidden because I've played it so passively. This guy has avoided looking at me this whole time, drinking water and staring into his phone.

He wouldn't checkraise here without the nuts. It's a hard fold, but you can get way from this, especially it being a limped pot.

The only odd part about his line is that he lead out on the flop, got a ton of action and then decides to check when a relative blank hits. Even with that said, there is just way too much action going on the turn for him to raise it up with the Q of spades or lower. I would only call against a clueless donk that doesnt' understand relative hand strength. Your read is that he is a reg/thinking player, so I just can't see him doing this without the nuts.

Puke inducing situation. Given the action BB thinks he has the best hand, and with that much action that has to be a flush. The flop lead could be a lot more hand but after 3 calls behind the As draws and sets have to be worried they are facing a made flush.

Add in the chance that UTG fish actually has some equity and I could find a fold here. Would depend on how I read the situation. One thing that would really affect my play is how BB is going to treat river. If he is always going to shove after check/raising turn then I would lead fold, if he will shut it down with less then the nuts then I'm more likely to call.

My first read through left me with the idea that this was a clear call or shove. But your other commenters make some good points. It might have to do with the caliber of the competition... I find several players in my game ($1/2) that would treat almost any made flush here as the immortal nuts and would be all eager to make a naked As/Ks/Qs pay to draw.

But let me try to make a case for calling or raising... It's been limped around - all that does is remove some spade combos (AQss, AJss, maybe QJss, JTss and ATss).

OTF - BB leads and gets 3 callers - no raises. At this point, he probably considers any made flush he has is good. And if he has a set or non-nut flush - he's probably a bit concerned about 3 callers - anyone (or two) that may have better singleton spades.

OTT - Let's give V a T9ss just for discussion (I guess with a limped pot we really can't eliminate a lot of flush combos). So V gets a safe card, and wants to thin the field out. He could bet out 50... or he could risk that someone else will bet for him and go for c/r. Fish accomodates and you call and other fish calls. From his perspective the first fish either has him out flushed or not. He probably considers the other over-callers as potential dead money. If you had a better flush - you would raise. So he raises himself - trying to lock in your dead money, and knocking out your equity.

So I could talk myself into calling... but it's close. I can see that it'd be an easier fold with a worse flush... even Q high).

I think it is a fold. When a live reg takes this line it is literally the nut flush 100% of the time, so I would exploitatively fold.


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