1/2 Saturday night

Villain 1 WG 20's ~ $65 - fish, limp calling wide, generally bad. Last orbit shoved his $30 stack in and doubled up from a rec player "giving him action"

Villain 2 WG 30's~ $520 - just moved from broken table 30 mins ago, very talkative/jovial. Raising PF first five hands he sat. Seems like tricky lag. Sitting directly to heros right.

Hero WG 30's ~ covers

OTTH

V1 Limps UTG
Folds to V2 OTB raises to $15. (Standard size for table)
Hero calls from SB w JcJd
Considered 3betting because V2s range is very wide here, but given he's directly to my right I am going to play most hands IP against him I elect to call this time. I'm not confident that 3betting will narrow his range.
V1 calls

Flop ($47)
9c 7h 2s

Hero checks, V1 shoves $50, V2 tank calls. Hero?

If I were V2 and had JJ+ I'm probably calling here in the hopes Hero calls too. On the other hand, this could be a super thin call with something like T9, T7, A2, or any lowish PP.

If hero calls, what's the plan on turn?
If hero raises what's plan?

Thoughts everywhere appreciated.


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I'd make the overcall, as I think it's likely we have the best hand. With the way the action has gone, I think both our main V and the shortstacked V can both be fairly wide.

Your overcall should signify strength here. Combine that with this now being a protected pot with a dry sidepot and I think it gives us a better opportunity to get to showdown fairly cheap unless V2 has QQ+ or improves if overcards come. There are some Vs that will blast away on later streets, but in general players tend to play more straightforward in this situation when there's little to nothing to be gained by bluffing into a dry sidepot. So I'd call and evaluate turn.

Have you seen V2 play any other hands he raised pre? Is he aggressive, passive, bluffy, etc.?

If he will bet into you if you check turn, call flop and check/call most turns/rivers. If not, go ahead and raise to $125 or $150 now. Fold to a shove. If he calls, proceed cautiously.

I would have 3bet pre.

pretty standard call I think. Check and evaluate all turns, with the understanding that villain should play very straightforward with an all-in player and a dry side pot.

Possibly go for thin value on the river on some runouts.

3b pre all day.

AP, easy call. Check/call turn, check/eval river.

V1 Limps UTG
Folds to V2 OTB raises to $15. (Standard size for table)
Hero calls from SB w JcJd
Considered 3betting because V2s range is very wide here, but given he's directly to my right I am going to play most hands IP against him I elect to call this time. I'm not confident that 3betting will narrow his range.
V1 calls

This is exactly why we 3-bet. If you think he's going to be calling too often that's great! This means we are getting more money into the pot with a range advantage.

If he raise-calls with a wide range pre, that is a very good reason to 3! pre for value. Make it about $45-50 pre.

Overcall the flop. Villain can't really continue with worse when you raise. Evaluate the turn. I'd plan to check most turns 7+ and bet 6-. Your overcall is pretty strong on the flop and villain shouldn't bet into you in a protected pot unless he has a very good hand.

3bet preflop everyday of the week, as JJ isn't easy to play oop. If he calls, know that he is possibly flipping against your hand with AQ/KQ or you have him absolutely dominated. Get some value in there!
Definately overcall here, knowing our hand is good here a huge % of the time. Know that in a locked pot players generally aren't ******ed enough to spaz, probably get some more value if thr board runs out alright.

This times 100. You being IP most of the time has nothing to do with you being in the SB right now. You're OOP, villain already had a wide opening range and an even bigger opening range OTB, you're near the top of your range and if you call you're going to be OOP to both players. You mention that you're not confident that 3betting will narrow his range. Who cares? If 3betting doesn't narrow his range then narrow down your 3! OOP, smash him with larger 3bets when you almost certainly have a stronger hand and generally make his life hell. I would 3! and probably a bit more than usual sizing say....$45-50.

Turn: Call. You cant be folding overpairs in non 3! pots to minimal action. Yeah V1 shoved but he was a short stack fish with about a 1 pot sized bet anyways. I would assume he shoves with literally almost any piece of this board. V2 could easily have TT, A9s, K9s, Q9s, J9s, 89s, J8s maybe even a hand like 88.