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04-30-2017 , 06:53 PM
My usual 1/2 game at a local club is playing very weak/tight tonight except for a few players. Example: 3 limps to me in the BB and I make it $12 with KQo, everyone folds.

The villain in this hand is a young Asian guy who seems to have a lot of live experience. Playing close to a LAG style, always cbets when he's the PFR heads up.

Relevant HH: V opens EP to $15 with A8s, I call on the button with 66c, bb calls. Flop 987cc, checks to me I bet $25, V calls. Turn 2x, V checks I bet $50, V calls. River 4x, check check and V wins, I flash my losing hand.

EP limps, Hero ($400) in MP raises to $12 with JJ, folds to V ($500) in the CO who raises to $37, hero calls.

I thought the call was fairly standard. This was the first time V had 3bet me, although he had 3bet once or twice already. Anyone like a 4-bet to $100?

Flop ($79): J97r

Hero checks, V bets $60 after some thought. Hero?
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04-30-2017 , 07:23 PM
Pre standard, flop standard x/c as well
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04-30-2017 , 08:03 PM
Whoops, forgot to post the rest of the hand, I meant to post this as a line check.

Flop ($79): V bets 60, Hero check raises to $140, villain tanks for 30 seconds and calls.

My thought process was that his larger sizing was more indicative of QQ+ and he might just get it in now with those hands. If he doesn't have that, then he's likely got a hand with some decent equity such as KT, QT, 9T, 89, etc and he will certainly peel off a card.

Turn ($359): 2x completes the rainbow. Hero shoves ~$225.
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04-30-2017 , 09:21 PM
I don't like a 4-Bet to $100 PF though I can see the temptation with this sticky asian guy. Maybe with QQ+ but JJ can be tough PF (75% of the time an overcard comes).

I bet this flop, probably V's $60, he's demonstrated that he can call with any piece of the board, and hell if he happens to have 10-8 let's just ship to him because of his image (after a few more streets).

I like the C/R on the flop as played, basically a min raise+, not trying to scare away your customer. Scaring him away would have been my fear, which is why I'd prefer to bet out the $60, though you were there and had a better read on the guy, and that he could withstand a C/R. That leads to a lot of folds in games I play, but not with this guy. Turn ship is fine.
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05-01-2017 , 05:59 AM
nh. 3! could be debated cause i read passive but then you said hes been 3! and so i figured there are dynamics in play so thats cool.

I wouldnt 4! though unless hes been 3! me a bit more frequently.
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05-01-2017 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
My usual 1/2 game at a local club is playing very weak/tight tonight except for a few players. Example: 3 limps to me in the BB and I make it $12 with KQo, everyone folds.

The villain in this hand is a young Asian guy who seems to have a lot of live experience. Playing close to a LAG style, always cbets when he's the PFR heads up.

Relevant HH: V opens EP to $15 with A8s, I call on the button with 66c, bb calls. Flop 987cc, checks to me I bet $25, V calls. Turn 2x, V checks I bet $50, V calls. River 4x, check check and V wins, I flash my losing hand.

EP limps, Hero ($400) in MP raises to $12 with JJ, folds to V ($500) in the CO who raises to $37, hero calls.

I thought the call was fairly standard. This was the first time V had 3bet me, although he had 3bet once or twice already. Anyone like a 4-bet to $100?

Flop ($79): J97r

Hero checks, V bets $60 after some thought. Hero?
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
Whoops, forgot to post the rest of the hand, I meant to post this as a line check.

Flop ($79): V bets 60, Hero check raises to $140, villain tanks for 30 seconds and calls.

My thought process was that his larger sizing was more indicative of QQ+ and he might just get it in now with those hands. If he doesn't have that, then he's likely got a hand with some decent equity such as KT, QT, 9T, 89, etc and he will certainly peel off a card.

Turn ($359): 2x completes the rainbow. Hero shoves ~$225.
Although bet sizing is one piece of the puzzle in post flop scenarios, its only 1 piece. It would be very helpful if you had a bigger sample of how he reacts in 3b pots (since a lot of people are really bad at sizing here) to really determine what his sizing means.

The first bold "ASIAN LAG who always Cbets" really has me wanting to easily be just Xcalling this flop.

Our SPR is easy to play on any turn card, so we can happily just Xgii. If he happens to check back turn then he is most likely in his air range and not putting another dollar in the pot anyway, but we can just lead jam most rivers.
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05-01-2017 , 10:14 AM
Hand looks good.

We ck/rs the flop and plan to cram most turn cards because between the turn and river there are far too many cards that can kill our action or give us the worst hand, so we want to get value now.

I'd go just a bit larger on the flop so we can go a bit smaller on the turn.

$150/$215
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05-02-2017 , 04:17 AM
I think check/call and lead turn around $100 is the best option and here is why.

Flop ($79): J97r

Now lets think about the types of hands hes 3betting and cbetting.

If he has AK,AQ,88,55,A9,A7 type of hands we let him play perfect by folding to our check raises OTF


If he has a strong hand like AA,KK,QQ,77,99,97,J9 then we can still get stacks in OTT


All the draws are just gutshots besides QT..Think 89,T9,JT,KT,KQ,T7 those hands dont have much equity vs us anyways.


Id much rather give our opponent a chance to make mistakes.What will he do if he cbets AK and turns an Ace? How about KQ and turn a K? Or 55 and turns a set?

So by check/calling and leading turn we still get value from his strong hands and force him into tough spots when his hand improves a little bit OTT.


X/C flop, lead turn $100, and shove the remaining $200 into a $400 pot OTR
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