1/2 - JJ in the cutoff facing ai mp reship
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 329
Have not played with villian 1. One orbit in he has played almost every hand - vpiping way too high. Villian 2 in the hand plays passively, haven't had a chance to see any of his showdowns. He seems balanced though. We have everyone outchipped.
OTTH
OR raiser ($150) opens for 8, hj flats I repop to $36.
Villain 2 ($375) flats in sb, OR ships, hj folds
Pot is 240 and it's $125 to call.
Thoughts on call/raise/fold?
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 28,055
This is close. I lean fold, based on assumption v2 has a strong range and calls most of the time.
If v2 is calling too wide, much easier call v. Agro villain for only 75bb stack.
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Has villain 1 been playing hands by raising himself or has been a limp/calling?
If V1 has been playing every hand aggressively then I'm going with a call. He should have enough AK and bluff shoves in his range for it to be profitable. If V1 has been passive up until this point then fold, his raise/shove range will be QQ+ heavy.
I'm assuming V2's range for flatting your range out of the SB is strong but doesn't beat you a lot.
This is a rather guesswork situation though because you don't have a good read on V1 or V2. Your straight odds are good but this sort of action at 1/2 tends to be bad for JJ against generic unknown villains. With better reads this is easy to push into being an easy fold or easy call.
Join Date: Mar 2011
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It's close.
My usual would be to think that a 4-bet at 1/2 is default AA/KK unless we have evidence otherwise. The fact that he's slightly shortstacked means QQ+ and AK might be in the default range.
Without doing the Math, I would think if his range is AA/KK range this is a fold and if it's QQ+, AKo+ it's a marginal call.
Given that and we have V2 behind us, I probably just fold and let him have it.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 329
I reshipped. SB called with QQ and OR had KK.
I didn't bink :[