After thinking about the hand more, I think that 3betting pre is better than jamming. I think this because if I jam pre, there is a chance DK finds a fold. He did just call off a 75BB AA jam a couple hands ago. I think in this situation 3betting was better.

I think checking the flop was best too, this made DK put more chips in the pot.

I obviously made a big mistake by folding to his bet on the flop. I should have jammed after he bet, a call would have only left about $35 behind.

The results of the hand were: limp jammer wins pot with JJ, DK tables 26o and takes down the $10 side pot. With the board runout (forget exactly what it was) I would have won the side and main pots.

I voiced that I didn't understand DK betting 100 on the flop because he was going to lose regardless with his holding and he was only betting 100 for a $10 sidepot.

With SPR <1 it was obvious jam on flop.

I didn't think enough about how much was already in the pot, what I had behind and how often I needed to win to make jamming profitable, if I did I would have jammed. I would have won a $475 pot if I had just jammed flop. So costed myself good amount of money and was thinking about hand at work today =/

Moving forward I need to focus on always making the best play and towards the end of a session (it was like 6:30AM) I need to realize if I am going to continue playing I can't think of the amount I am up, etc. Also, I need to think about how much I am up in terms of BB's instead of dollar amounts. Being up anything more than 200BB's in a session is probably a good place to start looking to walk away once the game dies down.

I immediately left after this hand with my $199 profit I had, I knew I would have went on monkey tilt if I stayed. I appreciate everybody's input.

learning while you are paid is a good thing, yes? (Just not on my payroll please....)

LOL 26o that's pretty outrageous.

learning always good, hah

LOL, this made me laugh while I was sitting on train

Here's pic of stack around $380. I ran it up from $38. Those are all $20 stacks except front right =). I didn't even think it was that big, but one reg complimented, "That's the biggest stack I've seen in a long time." I told him to get used to it, I would be playing here more frequently.

How can you play your 'A game' if you're concerned about losing your profit?
You didn't give this spot more thought before folding because you were concerned about locking in that profit.

I run into the same situation when I have played 5 hrs or so & am close to rackin' up anyways, as I don't play more than 6 hrs max w/o a break. But even if I was up $400 after 3 hrs & a known 2/5 player table changes to mine with a stack that has me covered & gets a seat on my left, I have a decision to make.

You see, being up $400 [having bought in for $300] doesn't necessarily mean I have $700 in front of me. I top off in $25 increments on the button. So, say I re-buy for a total of $75 before winning, I could have $775 or more in front of me.

Now what if this new player is good to the point where I have not been able to get any reads on him in the past & he plays aggressive when he has a big stack, I have to either get position on him or leave. Period.

I use to stay & try to dodge him but that is too annoying. Then you find yourself in a tricky situation & you fold & now you're embarrassed. Nobody knows but you, however, it's annoying mentally. I know. I've been there. So, I just cash out, or table change.

Sounds to me that I'd be more worried about getting out of the parking lot & on the road w/o getting knifed than not losing my profit at the table.

I like 3! pre over jamming to get the SPR low enough to jam all flops and max value against the other two. Believe it or not, a 3x raise actually is pretty small, I think 80 would be better. 3x is small is because you're laying 2.5:1, and even better odds when button shoves. He'd actually be making a mistake folding most of his range against those odds except his lower pps and Qx.

I don't like to peel with the worst of it obviously, but I bust over pairs all the time when people price me in... It seems to always be with JT. Busted a set of QQs just a few hours ago because I was priced in by the time he finally decided to shove.

It's in Inglewood, lol. That actually did run through my mind, when I got into a huge pot with the only other big stack at the table. Older black man, I opened for 10x on the BTN with JJ he calls from SB. Flop comes Q5x rainbow, he checks, I check, turn is J. I bet $40 he calls. River is 5 giving me boat, he checks, I jam. He tanks for like 10 minutes it seemed like and I was really trying to make it seem like I didn't want him to call.

He finally folds and says, "Man you the real alpha." And table changes right after. (We had joked earlier, that I was going to run up my $38 to his stack size and I actually did).

I was worried about what would have happened if he called and I took his $400. I know that's a lot more money to him and most of the regs playing 1/2 there than it is to me (I have a good paying job in finance that I'm very grateful for).

Also, this was the first time playing poker live that I actually thought about how me taking these people's money would impact them. When I played at the Wynn those thoughts never crossed my mind.

Can you please not educate villains. I'd like them to continue having fun making huge mistakes please.

You sound like an absolute pleasure to have at the table.

OP, I like how you label your villains as the biggest donkeys you have ever seen, while you - to put it extremely mildy - still have a lot to learn about poker yourself (believe it or not).

I do like your theories though, about bullying a table full of shorties with your 100bb monsterstack by opening to 10x and flopping flushdraws. Keep up the good work and play that A game!

But seriously, you should really focus on improving your own game rather than berating your opponents. I'm sure you think you're a whole lot better than you actually are, which can be a big pitfall in poker. I would also stop playing 20-50bb games, as I don't think they will improve your game and I doubt if they can be profitable at all (I'm guessing they're not rake free).

OP, unfortunately you don't understand the concept of stack sizes in cash games. I would suggest reading Professional No Limit Holdem by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller.

I was smiling and laughing when I told him to get used to it, like said it jokingly, you know. I think generally I am an enjoyable person to be around, because I'm always positive and like to keep things light, so ya, I think I would be a pleasure to sit down with

Do they not let you use red chips?

lol zoltan you're out of your element.

I am well aware I have a lot to learn. Me posting about my hands and writing about how I made mistakes and coming on here to seek advice from people who do this for a living hopefully makes that somewhat obvious.

Even people that are the best at what they do still have things to learn. There are always new perspectives to take on things. So ya, I appreciate that and I know I have a lot to learn.


I am trying to improve my game that's why I'm here. I didn't berate him, I actually stated it quite candidly without being upset and then left. He basically, won the other guy the pot and I wanted to voice my opinion on that. Although I think the other guy needed the money more than me so I wasn't very upset for long after thinking about it more.

I've played sports my whole life, so when I am competing, my natural instinct is to think I'm better than my opponent. Sometimes, I get the worst of it, it happens. I definitely don't think I'm the greatest and as stated before know I have a lot to learn. Obviously in the grand scheme I'm probably a bit above average just because the average and below average players do nothing to improve or work on their games. But that's about it, by no means do I overestimate my skill level, I know I'm pretty low on the totem pole on these forums.

Also, in LA the smallest game with 100BB buyin is 5/5 ($500 buy-in). I need to get my poker bankroll to $4K before I start playing there, but my plan is to start there as soon as I can. I agree 20-50BB poker is not ideal.

Please explain to me what I wrote in here that demonstrated my lack of understanding of stack sizes. Would like to explore and discuss thoughts. I strongly disagree with this. Maybe your understanding of stack sizes needs to be revisited, how often do you play against opponents with 20-30BB avg stacks in cash games?

Nope, all $1 chips, hah. Ya was weird to me to at first, I was used to having all red chips from where I played live previously.

Based on this you sound like someone who feels a compulsion to prove to people how smart you are.

Then again, I could be wrong as the vibe IRL and what's posted on a message board can be two totally different scenarios.

Bit of advice (life and poker): nobody likes to be made to feel stupid. If you have that big of an edge vs. your competition, you should treat your opponents like customers. Telling them they're wrong to bluff into a dry side pot or whatever is exactly the opposite of how you should treat your customers.

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Basically, I'm not sure you are understanding the concept of effective stack sizes. Raising 10x with a "flush draw" type hand is absolutely ridiculous when you are only playing against players with stacks of 30bb. You aren't going to make back enough money the times you hit your flush draw and make 30bb versus the times you are spending 10bb to raise a marginal hand pre-flop. It really doesn't matter that you have 100bb when the rest of the table may only have 30bb; you are playing the effective stack size.

No, I don't typically play against a full table of 20-30bb stacks becasue folks I play against buy in for a minimum of 50bb, and I wouldn't want to play against a table of shorties becasue it takes away my skill advantage.

To be honest with you, you really seem more set on showing people here that you know poker and not learning something and taking advice and criticism effectively. I'm not saying I know everything but about poker but this is my two cents.

I do treat them like customers. I'm very respectful, nice and polite to everybody I play with. I didn't tell him he was wrong.

All I said was, "I don't get why you would bet that." What was going through my head at the time was he just gifted the other guy the pot by getting me to fold. I left anyways, but generally I never talk about strat with anybody at the table and encourage them to play how they want. This was the biggest pot of the night that I made a mistake on and maybe it would have been best not to say anything, and I usually don't but I did here.

I am all about the golden rule and treating others respectfully. Even if somebody is being argumentative towards me, I diffuse, and never escalate. Not worth it. Better to be positive and friendly towards all.

This is my impression as well. Plus to say (multiple times) that opponents need the money more, that villains can't afford to rebuy...... denotes a bit of a superiority complex that quite frankly, is offensive to me. I speak as someone that has more money than I need. Modesty is a virtue.

They choose to play. It is not your "job" to assume they can't rebuy. You literally have no idea. It is more likely they have a poker budget and choose not to rebuy.

All this said....I have no idea if my impression is correct. I only see the words you post, not the intent. Nor do I have any idea about your character. And of course it doesn't matter. The more you post here, the more we can judge the content of your character for ourselves.

Peace

Grunch 80 pre to ISO fish and set up pot size shove on favorable flops. No need to get fancy with this villain.

On the K hi flop I like chk/call/Gii to keep his range wide if we expect him to bet most of his range when we check.

Uhh. Never said it was my job, you were trying to say it's nothing like a tournament and we agreed to disagree.

The dude looked like he hadn't showered in 5 days and had dirty fingers and fingernails and raggedy clothes. Could he be well-off financially? Possible but very unlikely...

And I am by no means wealthy. I worked hard to get an above average paying job and don't come from any money. I don't think I'm better than anybody, I just generally thought to myself in a generous kindhearted way, it wasn't as bad as I thought to lose that pot to that guy.

I know how important it is to be happy for others, to wish others well and to always be positive. I found a way there to be happy for the person I lost a big pot to. And I always try to be happy for other's successes (have studied about self-development and success). IE - Napoleon Hill, Joseph Murphy etc