1/2 I believe I made a bad call on the T
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 416
Hero on BtN - tight image. Eff stack 130$(i know i should have 100bb but Im being a tight nit for building a BR)
Villain SB - Tight, loose showed down with 9 on a Khigh board. His image is well kept. No tells other then hands shown. Doesnt chase flushdraws knows when to fold it.
Hero w/ 8c8s BTN limped pot 5 ways.
Pot - 10$~
Flop - Jc9c2d
sb leads out 10, 4 callers.
Pot - 60$~
Turn - 10h
sb leads out 30$, 2 callers.
Pot - 150$~
River - Qd
sb leads out 75$. Fold to me.
a spot like this we're only getting 2:1. Need to be good about 33%~.
Now vs a range like this that can limp? 99,22,ATo,KJs-K9s,Q9s+,J9s+,ATo,KJo+,QTo+,J9o+ on the turn we're 15%. With the pot 120$ we're getting 4:1 pot odds with an OESD. Looking at it now we can fold Turn given the range. Maybe if we add more bluffs in his range we can call? As played onto the river - vs this range we're getting 66% to call. But since villain ONLY value bets so far I bring out ONLY valuebets and that leaves him with a range of - 99,22,KJs-K9s,QTs+, KJo, QJo, JTo. We're getting 47% equity but even then Im still being very generous.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Need to raise to like 18 pre. Flop call is pretty bad. Turn call is less bad cause we at least have more outs now but a fold is better. River is probably a fold vs this opponent but villain description wasnt very clear
Join Date: Sep 2015
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I'm fine with limping this pre given stack sizes, the amount of limpers, and the fact that it's 1/2. I don't hate isolating either.
AP fold flop. I just don't understand what you're hoping for here.
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Raise pre.
Insta-fold flop
Fold turn.
As played, call. SB has been leading the whole way. How many Kings does he have in his range that like the flop, and like the turn enough to bet both times? Maybe KJ, KcQc. More likely he has 2-pair that is just clicking buttons.
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Raise pre, fold flop. As played, call and pray.
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Raise pre! Make it at least $15 to create a small SPR. Maybe even more.
Fold the flop! Third pair is crushed against 4 players. Turn is also a fold. You're drawing to the non-nut end of the straight. You really only have three decent outs to non-club 7s.
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Raise pre is better, limp is ok-ish, raise is definitely better.
Every other Street is a fold, not even a think and fold. We are good with two 8s in a multiway pot facing action precisely 0% of the time.
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Grunch. Sorry if I'm beating any dead horses.
First, why are you at 65BB? I know you said being a br nit, but did you buy in for 50 BB and build up? Or have you dropped from buying in at 100 and haven't topped up? Makes a difference, because...
Second, how long have you been at the table to develop what you think is a tight image?
And third, reads on the limpers? I might advise a raise in this spot pf,but I know nothing about the people who limped in ahead of you.
Also, your read on V is illegible. Tight, loose? Wut?
Get these sorted out and we can talk more about the hand.
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 5,628
Foldo flopo rapido
Pre is ok, but you aren't playing tight (or well) calling this flop. Its a very routine and simple hand reading exercise which always concludes with taking 0ev and spending the rest of the hand focusing on how your opponents play a board like this against one another - especially when you had two 8s and the 8c
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Ill b going back to the lab
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