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09-06-2017 , 02:02 AM
Hi guys. Another hand to share

I had Ac Kc from UTG I open for $15. Two callers. (Loose table, hence the open)

Flop Ad Jh 2h. I bet $30, one caller.

Turn 3s. I bet $60, villain goes all in for $160... do you call for $100 more? What about $150 more?

Last edited by venice10; 09-06-2017 at 08:29 AM. Reason: Results deleted
09-06-2017 , 02:31 AM
Hide results, it biases opinions.

Provide any reads on villains, or state that they're unknowns

Easy call. We only need to be good 24% of the time vs an unknown. As for the rest... it's villain dependent. If it's some old guy who rarely puts money in the pot, then it's an easy fold. If it's against an aggressive opponent who often raises, then easy call.
09-06-2017 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by imaginedat
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I had Ac Kc from UTG I open for $15. Two callers. (Loose table, hence the open)

Flop Ad Jh 2h. I bet $30, one caller. ...
I don't care the results and you should not look at the rare situation when the super fish calls a raise preflop with a trash hand like 54. First, we don't know the effective stacks at the beginning of the hand.

Now, AK is a great hand—even when it’s not suited but suited is even better. I put AK right after the KK. I like playing AK more than QQ. More flexible and more deadly animal. Easy to play. It’s the tremendous big-card strength that gives this unique hand its value.

At the flop you got TPTK and it was there a possible flush and a straight draw. You should have bet a pot size or 1.5x pot bet to make sure villain gets overpriced at a ratio of 1.5:1 or more. He is 3x dog (he makes it 1 in 4 trials) but he's getting less than even money. After that don't even look at the results.

Always remember this: When you flop an Ace and make TPTK like in this hand and the flop contains that Ace and a small card from 2-5 or a big card from T-K or both (a small one and a big one) you will always have at least one possible straight draw or two like in this case. Bet big to charge the fish for playing drawing hands in a raised pot.

If you do this all the time from now on you will be way way ahead.

Last edited by outdonked; 09-06-2017 at 02:57 AM.
09-06-2017 , 05:38 AM
Generally an easy call 100bb and i'm not sure why you think this is super high variance. It's a pretty standard stack off spot .

Now what that other guy said, you don't wanna stack off if it's a nit who rarely puts in money on anything weaker than 2 pair or trips. Some people won't even reraise unless they have the nuts.

But vs most unknowns this is a very easy call.
09-06-2017 , 06:18 AM
I'd call as well, not super happy but call. What about checking turn? I mean, once you bet its probably a call, but you can check and pot control this OOP? Dont know, I might check this sometimes. Anyway, good hand.

EDIT: nah, you cant check. Too many flush draws and str8 draws. I'd play the same way I think.
09-06-2017 , 08:07 AM
Please give any reads you have, at least age, gender, appearance even if you have nothing else.

Please provide starting stack sizes and pot sizes on each street.

I suggest you don't give results, not even in a spoiler as responders may give them away. Show them after discussion has died off.

From HH, V has $205 to start and you have at least that much.

I typically don't plan to stack off with TPTK 100 bb deep unless I've got a specific read V is a station and I'm driving the action or I have a read V is bad aggro and he's driving the action.

Typical LLSNL opponents call the flop and jam the turn with air roughly never. IMO, he has what he considers is a big hand.

I'd fold it.

Against a passive station, I like the line (if we fold).

Against a bad aggro, I'd x/c and eval river.

Against an unknown, I probably x/c the turn, planning to get some value on the river or eval with an eye towards folding to further pressure.
09-06-2017 , 08:33 AM
Thread went off the rails before I saw it.

OP, next time don't post the results, provide some reads and don't make people have to calculate the stack sizes.

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