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1/2 folding a set here? 1/2 folding a set here?

07-08-2017 , 02:23 PM
Villain is newish to the table, seems to play pretty straightforward. Has about 190, I cover him.

Hero raises to 10 EP with KcKd, V in MP calls, all else folds.

Flop ($20) Kh4s2s

I check, V bets 15, I call,

Turn ($50) Ad, I lead for 30, V calls

River ($110) 6s, I bet 50, V shoves for 135 total.

Hero?

The thing that held me up is I don't know why he would bet the flop with a flush draw so I don't necessarily think he has a flush. But, what can he possibly have that bluff-shoves the river. I think you can only shove there with the flush. I also don't have the Ks.

Even if he has AK or a smaller set he can't possibly raise for value on the river.

Also, if you are interested in live tells, I show my cards and look at him and he smiles and tries to hold back the smile.





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07-08-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by westwd
Villain is newish to the table, seems to play pretty straightforward. Has about 190, I cover him.

Hero raises to 10 EP with KcKd, V in MP calls, all else folds.

Flop ($20) Kh4s2s

I check, V bets 15, I call,

Turn ($50) Ad, I lead for 30, V calls

River ($110) 6s, I bet 50, V shoves for 135 total.

Hero?

The thing that held me up is I don't know why he would bet the flop with a flush draw so I don't necessarily think he has a flush. But, what can he possibly have that bluff-shoves the river. I think you can only shove there with the flush. I also don't have the Ks.

Even if he has AK or a smaller set he can't possibly raise for value on the river.

Also, if you are interested in live tells, I shoe my cards and look at him and he smiles and tries to hold back the smile.





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K high flop is good to stab to when checked to (in case you rep AQ/QJ/AJ)

hoping you check fold
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07-08-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Alsi
K high flop is good to stab to when checked to (in case you rep AQ/QJ/AJ)

hoping you check fold
True enough

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07-08-2017 , 02:33 PM
Meh I'm calling this every time.

For all the times you run into a flush or straight villain can have Aces up.

I think it is actually more debatable if the turn is a Q but with stack sizes I think villain can have a lot of strong Aces or Aces up and think they are good...

If stacks are deeper this is tougher
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07-08-2017 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by randomcards
Meh I'm calling this every time.

For all the times you run into a flush or straight villain can have Aces up.

I think it is actually more debatable if the turn is a Q but with stack sizes I think villain can have a lot of strong Aces or Aces up and think they are good...

If stacks are deeper this is tougher
^ This. You're calling $85 to win $295. I think you're good enough here often enough at 1/2 to make this EV. Also, the line you took looks like you have AQ/AJ. Your hand is under repped so villain could be thinking his 2p is good or possibly hoping you'd fold top pair after the 3rd spade hits.
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07-08-2017 , 07:30 PM
Call. And ffs, don't show him your cards. I'd be grinning too, because even if you accidentally make the right call here, just the fact that you hadda think about it means all your moniez are belong to me (eventually).
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07-08-2017 , 10:22 PM
Update: I folded, he showed flush.

Was still thinking maybe it should be a call regardless of results

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07-08-2017 , 11:21 PM
Easy call. Don't show cards. x/c flop OOP is pretty questionable.
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07-08-2017 , 11:39 PM
Given you led the river (and quite small) ... I presume you are planning on check-folding and looking for thin value. I'd have check-called the river myself (up to half pot).

In my game a flop bet from Villain on a FD would be fairly common.
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07-09-2017 , 06:18 AM
Years ago when the idea of a cbet was new and just calling because the pfr could have air, checking the flop was fine. Today, players will call with two napkins on the flop when HU, looking to exploit the tendency to check the turn. Therefore when you have a set, you want to bet the flop.
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07-09-2017 , 02:29 PM
Yeh, I almost chocked on my food when I read that hero checked top set OOP.
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07-10-2017 , 12:29 PM
What on earth is the flop about? If you checked to induce, raise him! I'd never check this flop. BTW, if I were V, I'd bet my flush draw on flop.

I read results, but I would have called -- not that I'd ever be here.
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