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03-04-2016 , 09:30 PM
Live £1/£2 cash game in the UK. £100-£500 Buy in limits. Sat down at the start with £500.

Hero: Had with around £470 at start of hand. Cash game reg in the casino, not always 1/2 however, hadn't had much history with many of the players at the table.

Villain: Stack was around £420 Regularly plays weeknight turbo comps with £20-£50 BI. Doesn't play much cash that I've seen. 1 or 2 orbits before this hand he 4bet folded AKo for 1/3 of his stack.

Hand:

hero opens 3 3to £9 UTG+2
BB (villain) calls (Pot: £19)
Flop: A 8 3
Villain Checks, Hero bet £14, Villain Calls (Pot: £47)
Turn: 6
Villain Checks, Hero bets £27, Villain Calls (was a snap call, Pot: £101)
River: A
Villain bets £50, Hero raises to £110, Villain Raises to £376 and is all-in. Is this a fold or just a cooler?

Would like any advice on the hand, such as bet sizing or the way the river is best played, likely hands he does this with etc etc.. Don't want this post to seem like I'm butthurt about the hand or anything like that, had this situation a few times recently and never received advice.

Thanks in advance
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03-04-2016 , 09:34 PM
Snap call not even close

I bet turn bigger and raise river bigger
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03-04-2016 , 11:08 PM
I think your line is good until the river. I would raise a bit more because at that point you are targeting trips that can't find a fold and flushes. Those hands will call a fairly big bet. Weaker hands are going to give up as soon as you raise with such a strong board.

I'm not so enthusiastic about the situation when villain shoves but it is an awfully hard fold. You have to be pretty sure villain is never bluffing and never over valuing worse. A lot of villain will put you on AX and shove here with any flush, some will shove with good trips. There are villains I could get away from this when they shove, but for the most part I'm not raising those nitty types because they are not going to call a raise without a boat and they are not calling the flop with just a flush draw.
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03-04-2016 , 11:16 PM
Unsure of what? Whether to masturbate at the table or wait to get to the nearest bathroom or dimly lit corner would be my only dilemma
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03-04-2016 , 11:19 PM
bet bigger on turn, raise more on river, snap call against the shove
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03-05-2016 , 09:48 AM
I know it sounds very nitty, which is why i was reluctant to post this, but how often is villain going to be leading then 3 bet jamming the river from the big blind with a hand worse than ours? If he's 4bet folding AK pre doesn't that suggest he's more on the tighter side and likely only jamming a house here? In my mind i knew i was going to raise the river but when he jams i really didn't like the spot because it just didn't feel like he was going to jamming worse, he'd most likely snap call with Ax and a flush here. And with his snap call on the turn he didn't even stop to think about raising here so it felt very unlikely that he would have a flush and a set combo is unlikely because he never has aces and theres a relatively high chance he will 3b 88 from the BB. Maybe I'm just overthinking the hand and its just a standard way to play it but i didn't feel right in my mind on the river.

Thanks to everyone thats replied so far
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03-06-2016 , 06:37 AM
More OTT, more OTR, AP call
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03-06-2016 , 08:33 AM
Bet more otr there so many hands we beat that he can't lay down here.

There are a lot of guys in my player pool (I'm play in a small card room in England too) where this is a pretty trivial lay down. They will only come over the top with a boat and all boats beat us. That might not be the case here but I rarely see a guy 4 bet otr on a paired board with out the goods.
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03-06-2016 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
More OTT, more OTR, AP call
Why you wanna bet big ott? For the most part only hands that beat us are continuing no?
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03-06-2016 , 09:29 AM
Why are we raising if we aren't calling a shove? A raise/fold seems pretty weird here. Also, a guy who mainly plays cheap tournis and not much cash, I don't know that I can find a fold to him. I think he goes crazy with trips and nutted flushes.

Is there any timing tells or other live tells in the hand? Did he call very quickly pre? Think about it for a few seconds? How about the flop? He probably puts you on the Ace rite? Anytime someone raises in EP, don't most players just assign you an Ace? I sure don't see him 3betting 88 pre. So that feels like the only hand that beats you... But hed go off with nutted flushes and trip aces. Call.

Masta--
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03-06-2016 , 01:13 PM
raise bigger OTR tbh, with this line you actually can fold, doesnt seem like he overvalues hand with his previous 4bet fold pre so this is probably never a flush.
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03-06-2016 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jwostr
Unsure of what? Whether to masturbate at the table or wait to get to the nearest bathroom or dimly lit corner would be my only dilemma
well played

also use the bathroom to flush down your money if this is a fistpump situation for you.


bigger on all streets imo, vs a guy who 4bet folded (and apparently showed) I think we can raise fold river here.
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