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Originally Posted by Zero2Hero13
My thinking on the big turn bet was pretty much make them pay substantially for any draw or combo draw they may have. Knowing if they brick the river I won't get another dime from them anyway. Also if by some fluke I was up against 109 there it would pretty much dictate they would re-raise all in. Probably poor logic, but at least I scooped a pot
I think you need to rethink your reasons for betting. You want value, not to bet to charge a draw or to protect your hand. People get weary of their draws on the turn when they've bricked the turn. So you cant overbet hammer them. Typically. But because you are multiway to the turn you can still bet on the large size, around size of pot, maybe a little less. You cant be thinking "at least I took down the pot." Its pretty bad thinking, you have them crushed and willing to put in more money then you blew everyone out of the pot. That's bad. You want to get them to call while having very poor odds. The turn is the magical place where you can get in a lot of money as a HUGE favorite. Don't steal your own magic. When you are oop and the river bricks, then you can check it to them to induce a bluff, if you are very sure that most of their range is missed draws. If they have a mix, then you need to make a decision between checking and betting, with keeping in mind that most people are going to be showdown bound, so they are unlikely to bet thinly, but will call with those hands that wouldn't bet with. So you might error on the side of caution with betting the river on bricked boards when their range is a mix of TP hands and missed draws.
You want value. Value. Value. Value. If you are forcing them out, its not value, its a mistake. Like turning your hand into a bluff.
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