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1-2 Flopped nut flush. Course of action? 1-2 Flopped nut flush. Course of action?

05-27-2015 , 01:07 PM
1-2 10 handed.
UTG +2 V: Stack of about 115 played every hand the last two orbits, has shown down top two pair numerous times.


BB Hero :Just doubled up to 210 after getting called down by ace-rag holding flush

Dealt Akd this hand

limp till V, who rasies to six. Hero reraises to 14. fold to V, who calls.

flop: j42 all d

How do we proceed? raise size? how to we not scare off top two, trips etc etc.

end result after imput
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05-27-2015 , 01:19 PM
pot of ~30 on the flop then?

i probably check because we have the board crushed. he's v likely to bet his sets and 2p-type hands to get value from our single diamond hands, so if he bets this flop he shouldn't be folding

if flop checks through i bet 25 on the turn and shove river which should be ~PSB
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05-27-2015 , 01:27 PM
ya since he only has $100 you can check the flop if you want and get stacks in by the river - only problem with that is if a 4th diamond comes up you are ruined unless he is absolutely terrible and will pay you off with any other diamond.

Betting flop is fine by the way - i'd just go really small if you do - like $15 - $20 - i'd only bet if he is that passive type of player who doesn't bluff vs weakness.

This flop is really hard to hit for anyone unless he has a diamond. I expect him to check fold a lot if you bet. That still doesn't make betting bad if you have a bad image. But since you 3bet pre flop he should be a little cautious.

PRE is terrible by the way. Your 3bet should be $20-$25. Making it $14 doesn't accomplish much.

if flop checks through just bet turn / shove river.
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05-27-2015 , 02:06 PM
Call his bet...raising will push him out since you hold first and second nuts. Hope he bets the turn but you probably only get max two streets of value.
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05-27-2015 , 02:10 PM
Just bet the flop in the amount of a normal c-bet.

The check advice is bad without a read that V will bet this hand for you.
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05-27-2015 , 03:05 PM
Raise more pre. 20 is good.

As played, bet 22
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05-27-2015 , 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rumor
Just bet the flop in the amount of a normal c-bet.

The check advice is bad without a read that V will bet this hand for you.
+1

You know what gets people to stop putting money into a pot on a monotone flop when we have the nuts? Acting weak then acting strong. If you check, eventually you might have to lead or check/raise to get more money in

Just bet bet bet, hope they have something and call you down
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05-27-2015 , 03:35 PM
Monotone boards are great to cbet with air, about as good as A-high flops. He's probably going to pitch his hand half the time to a normal sized c-bet

If we had A4s or K5s and were in this spot, I'd be more likely to bet. But there are very few hands he's going to love calling with, and I'd like to believe he's gonna semi-bluff or bet with almost all of those

Agreed that we need a better read on V - some Vs will stab with nothing Here and others will give up and start watching TV when this flop hits. Which end is this V on?
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05-27-2015 , 03:48 PM
Bet the same amount you would bet if you had two black aces. For me, that would be maybe half the pot.
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05-27-2015 , 06:44 PM
I'm for betting 1/2 pot mainly because of the possibility of a fourth flush card shutting down any possible action. If V folds, you probably weren't getting action no matter how you play it.
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05-27-2015 , 06:53 PM
Didn't see we are OOP...bet 1/2-2/3.
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05-27-2015 , 07:47 PM
In general, I usually play it fast an here's why:

If we have pocket pairs in our range we easily have one big d so if a 4th d falls villain won't give action without a Qd. Since suited hands are a large part of v ranges he often won't have TP+FD.

Second. when v does have a decent d (say KQo) we can get some value while he is drawing.

Third some of the time we will have over flushed a hand that will will actually fold when the 4th flush card hits. This will tend to be only the baby flushes but still it happens.

In this case v has position so if we check he probabl bets his flushes so that's not a concern. However he will also check a lot of medium strength hands that might call a bet. If he does and another action killing card falls we won't get any value.

I'm betting an amount that gets at least some value and maybe even feels a little weak in case he's susceptible to being induced.... I like 1/2 Potish.

Last edited by cAmmAndo; 05-27-2015 at 07:53 PM.
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05-27-2015 , 09:04 PM
Pre-flop I like raising to 20-25. I think it's a good idea to get 10% of your stack in with a hand that tends to flop TP/TK. It makes post-flop play easy.

But you got 10% of effective stacks in, since the Villain is short, even with your very small raise. I generally use the 1/7, 2/7, 4/7 rule, betting twice as much on the turn as the flop, and twice as much on the river as the turn.

So with about 98 to bet on 3 streets bet 14, 28, 56, rounded off to 15, 30, shove.
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