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02-15-2020 , 08:37 PM
Reasonable assessment but I can say T5s is not in my routine raise range. Typically premium down to suited one-gappers.

This forum has always been super conservative. TAG isn't the only profitable playing style.
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02-16-2020 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
I need some of you at my table; raise/calling jams with 10h flushes yes please
Not all flushes are equal/board texture matters a lot. T-high flush on 3h4h9h? Not very strong and high risk of being overflushed.

T-high flush on KQ2hhh? Very strong. You block AThh/JThh so there are *much* fewer combos of higher flushes.

You don't need to force the action, but folding to a single raise after a c-bet is just horrendous.
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02-16-2020 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Appreciate the raise input.

In the end I folded.

My thought process was essentially:
1. He could easily be doing this with AhX hands. Based on my reads, AQ only.
2. He could also have a set. He's likely raising QQ pre, but not 22. He never shows up with KK here.
3. What cards can come that make me happy betting into him? A1/2 Flopped flush vs raise, J1/2 Flopped flush vs raise, and that's it. I could still be ahead for many other cards, but I can't call another raise OTT.

So I don't see myself putting in another bet, nor calling another big bet/raise. I'm probably ahead right now, but there is so little in his range that I beat.


In hindsight, I still don't think I raise but I think a call and check OTT would've been optimal. If I had the A1/2 Flopped flush vs raise or J1/2 Flopped flush vs raise I am definitely continuing.
you did what?!!! How much did Mike Postle charge for his services?
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02-16-2020 , 09:26 AM
I don’t even know what to say other than I love poker.
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02-16-2020 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Appreciate the raise input.

In the end I folded.

My thought process was essentially:
1. He could easily be doing this with AhX hands. Based on my reads, AQ only.
2. He could also have a set. He's likely raising QQ pre, but not 22. He never shows up with KK here.
3. What cards can come that make me happy betting into him? A1/2 Flopped flush vs raise, J1/2 Flopped flush vs raise, and that's it. I could still be ahead for many other cards, but I can't call another raise OTT.

So I don't see myself putting in another bet, nor calling another big bet/raise. I'm probably ahead right now, but there is so little in his range that I beat.


In hindsight, I still don't think I raise but I think a call and check OTT would've been optimal. If I had the A1/2 Flopped flush vs raise or J1/2 Flopped flush vs raise I am definitely continuing.
Will never understand why you folded. That's insane. Against a range of reasonable flushes, KQ, 22, and AK/AQ with the Ah, you have about 60% equity. You're getting about 2.5 to 1 pot odds. You have to at least call and see the turn. I raise here, and if the V has Axhh or J9hh, he's gets my stack and I reload, getting mad at myself for even being in that pot.

It looks like you're afraid to play big pots without having the nuts or really close to it. That's losing poker. Good players are going to exploit you. You have a really strong hand, and not many combos of hands that beat you. If you can't put significant chips into the pot with a T high flush here, why are you playing T5hh?
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02-16-2020 , 02:49 PM
Pre-flop is obviously bad, but "you shouldn't play this hand if you don't want to stack off here" is terrible logic.

Suppose he has a reasonable pre-flop hand here like T9. Should he blast off 300bb on the flop with the 3rd nut flush? If you think the answer is yes, you should sit in my game.
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02-16-2020 , 10:00 PM
I don't understand all the raise/gii reactions either. But neither do I understand your fold. Seems like a standard call on the flop. It's not mandatory to play for stacks here. You seem to think that it is, but 300bb deep you are allowed to proceed carefully with a T high flush, especially when he can have most if not all possible A high flushes here, and maybe a couple of J high flushes too; and not a lot of flushes you beat. So I would call and see what happens next. Folding the turn is not unthinkable, depending on the card and his sizing if he bets again.
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02-17-2020 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
I need some of you at my table; raise/calling jams with 10h flushes yes please

Honest question were ppl playing back at you more after that fold
Nope.

It was largely seen as big stack vs big stack, where one has something better.

At 300BB deep, when most of the table is 100BB, I also wasn't very worried about people playing back.
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02-17-2020 , 10:31 AM
I agree with the folding is whack comments, I thought it was an error afterwards. Sure it's 2/3PSR, but at the very least we should've calling.

I was scared money when the raise came in.
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