V($200): 35ish carribean american looking guy who just sat down 4-5 hands ago. No real reads but he seems comfortable enough at the table.

Hero ($375): 30ish white guy, winning image to others but villain wouldn't know at all about me.

Folds to V on button who raises to $7. SB folds, Hero calls in BB w/ JT

Flop($15): JJ8 ... What's hero's plan for this hand (aside from folding pre)? Do we donk, c/r, c/c and then how are we planning to play future streets?

I'd just lead every street

^^^^^ this.

Always lead out here. I'm probably betting around $12-$18, then evaluate what to do based on his action and what the turn card is.

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Ok so ... Hero leads out for $10, V raises to $25. Hero? What is hero's plan on future streets (if we don't fold)?

Call flop and lead turn for $50. Willing to get it in on any turn card except maybe the Ac or Kc. If he calls turn shove river.

Yea call the flop re-raise. I think $50 is to low of a bet if turn comes up a non-club. No club I think betting on the turn card should be around $65-$80/ calling his re-raise/shove if need to.

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Raising the flop would seem to put overpairs, 88 and AJ, KJs, maybe QJs solidly in V's range and maybe a few straight/flush draws. Only 9/30+ combos ahead of us. I like a re-raise here, with a plan to shove turn. (Fold to a 4bet)

V only started hand with $200. We can't 3-bet/fold here.

I was about to respond with, "We can't?". But I ran the range of AJ, KJs, QJs, and 88 thru equilab and was surprised that we still have 23% equity. So if we raised to about 100 - and were 4 bet - we would have just about the equity we needed. So I think either a smaller 3bet/fold - or a call....lead turn. either way it feels awkward sizing to me.

Ok so... Hero makes it $65, V pushes all in. Hero fold?

We didn't call pre to hit trips and fold when villain could be overvaluing an overpair or over clubs. If he's got the case J better kicker so be it.

I dont know about this, are we really snapping off full stacks with trips and not great kicker? Would someone go that crazy in 1/2 as to jam with clubs?

People at 1/2, given they are above average player, seem to be more kicker conscious in trip situation than I expected.. after some live experience past few months.

Yeah?

Readless, I like leading as a bluff with say T9 to get folds from Ax, Kx, and Qx.

With JT, I think check/raise is much better.

If we lead, villain mostly folds (hence, I'd bluff a completely unbalanced bluffing range readless). His pre-flop BTN open range can be so wide. Only 1/4 of his suited hands are clubs. Many hands don't connect with this board. A lead mostly gets folds from hands like A6o, K7s, etc.

So I'd definitely check to let him c-bet.

Check/raising also builds a pot against hands that do stick around. Building a pot now is important because turn clubs, 7, 9, T, Q = nearly half the deck are flushing / straightening cards that can make it more difficult to get value from worse.

And this is important - I also think perhaps literally any hand that would continue to a hero lead will c-bet when we check. So I don't see how leading is better. Let's check, build a pot against continuing hands, and win one bet vs. airy hands. And obviously 100BB deep, we never fold with trips here.

I love leading out in this situation.
Primarily because it looks like anything but a monster.
It looks much more like an 8 or 99,TT or a Flush Draw or Straight Draw.
And this will motivate Villain to raise frequently with Overpairs (as value and protection) and also to raise as a bluff knowing our donk range is probably not the Jack

So bet, and do not fold.

I recently played a hand where I defended by blind with 33.
Flop came 553. I led. He raised with TT. I called
Turn came 9 and I led again. He got confused by the betting pattern and pushed.
The odd leads throw players off and cause them to overplay.
Fantastic tactic.

--CM