V1 ($325): MAWG, came to table with about $100 45 mins ago but tripled up in his first hand when he flopped quads vs. my nut flush draw and another guy's flopped boat. Since then, I've realized he's a bit Mubsy as he's not bet/raised hands he really should have been betting/raising and made comments expressing fear of certain hands the other players could have had. Tight-passive.

V2 ($225): 70ish white guy, been at table for about an hour. While he's fairly-tight-passive and hasn't raised much (if any) pre-flop, but he seems to understand hand values and c-betting. Seems to view hero as a LAG and spewy as we've been in a few hands together and he's caught hero double-barreling w/ nothing and getting lucky when board ran out 337 3 3 and hero ended up winning w/ high card when he had the 7. He seems annoyed when we're in hands together, like he is itching to stack me.

Hero ($400): 30ish white guy, probably seen as a LAG by both players as I've been very active since they have been there.

Preflop: V1 limps UTG, 2 limpers, V2 limps, folds to hero who limps w/ J10, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop ($11): AKQ BB checks, V1 bets $7, folds to V2 who calls, folds to hero who ???

Raise. Go to $25 and don't stop raising if re-raised.

Raise 100% of the time when the first bet gets a call. You need to get more money in this pot to play for stacks and on this board villains never have air and are not likely to have bare draws, lots of two pair or pair+draw hands. I like $25 also, your not trying to raise for any protection this is pure value and you want both to call.

Raise 21-30$.

Then cry when everyone folds :'C

Against these villains this is generally a call, but considering your image, you have to raise $20-$30 like others have said.

Odds are V1 is going to fold to the raise, but V2 is going to stick around. Tight passive players don't call post flop bets with players left to act unless they have a hand they really like (probably A10/AJ/KQ). Add to this the fact that he's getting annoyed by you and sees as you a nemesis, your chances he's going to see a turn go up.

Okay so consensus seems to be raise $20 - $30...

Hero raised $20, V1 folds, V2 calls.

Turn ($55): AKQ 7 V2 checks. Hero??

Instantly bet $30 verbally, then slowly put the chips in and glaze your eyes at the board.

DON'T MOVE A MUSCLE, DON'T BLINK AND DON'T LOOK ANYWHERE ELSE!

He'll call thinking it's some kind of bluff.

Leave and get eye drops after the hand is over.

Clear bet. Very few hands calling your flop raise are folding now but the pair+draw types might fold on the river.

Sizing is the tricky part, you want to get as much as possible without pushing villain out. I like $35 but if you have been pushing villain around with draws/bluffs this is a good situation to bet $40/$50 and let him try to pick off your "bluff".

A lot of players are mubsy in the sense that they won't make obvious value bets because they don't have the effective nuts, but they'll still call down reasonably light.

Bet $46 while scratching your left wrist and staring directly at the dealer.

Nits that are in the hand at this point generally have something they consider strong. And in this case, he has already caught you running a bluff recently, I suspect he will call a LOT more than a value bet here. I would make it AT LEAST pot sized ($50) and would be inclined to bet about $80. Shove river if board doesn't pair.

Thanks for the advice. This hand ended up working out great as I bet $45 on the Turn, V shoved, I called, he shows AQ and the river blanks. I like posting a mix of hands where I liked my results (as a control group, to see if folks think I should have played it differently) and hands where I didn't like my results.

Separate question that I've thought about after what I took to be the half joking comments in this thread about about making the bet while "scratching wrist and looking at dealer" or "DON'T MOVE A MUSCLE, BLINK, OR LOOK ELSEWHERE."

Because I couldn't see V2's stack clearly (I had a very rough idea of his stack... I know-- bad on me) I asked him on the turn how much he had behind. This was genuine and innocent on my part as I needed to know, but V2 got a bit flustered/heated after I asked that question, as he shoved his chips in my view in a bit of a taunting way as if to say "I'm not scared of you." When I made my $45 bet, he seemed all the more encouraged to shove so I think this inadvertant "tactic" paid off.

Are you guys using the "how much are you playing behind" line to get reads or try to manipulate? Are you finding +EV from it?

I honestly just ask for the amount. Any additional info is a byproduct.

NH.

It seems to me that folks ask "how much are you playing" either when they have the nuts and are trying to get someone's entire stack or when they have a draw or speculative hand and deciding if implied odds are there.
So, if you had asked me this question, in this spot, and then bet, I'd figure you have a pretty strong hand.

No offense but your opponents are viewing you as a fish and it sounds like you might have been playing as one.

Was that your strategy to look fishy so that you can get paid?

I wonder if that is +EV for you.

Not trying to pick on you but it looks like you won a big pot here and wonder if you lost a bunch prior to it by playing like a fish.

No, prior to this hand I was up ~$100 and bought it just once. What did you find fishy about this hand?

Nothing about this hand it just sounds like the table views you as a fish based on prior hands you have played.

That's just not a good image IMO

I think you are giving too much credit to my 1/2 opponents. It's also possible V is getting frustrated by my aggression and overcommitting with strong but beatable hands. I usually have a tighter image, so I love having a LAGgy image that enables me to get paid on my value bets.

Given you are on the button it will be much easier to extract value later so I would probably just call. If it folds around if you raise that would just be sad.