1/2 flop with nuts 4 way OOP with QT
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 257
Hand played last night. Table was very weak passive - lots of limping a marginal amount of limp calling. flops are often stabbed at in limped pots when V's pick up a piece of the board.
I'm about $210 deep at the time at look at QT in the sb. Pot has been limped in 2 spots in front including V1 in the hand, a mid 50s loose passive mid 50s calling station. I complete in the sb and V2 checks his option in the bb (V2 is a mid 50s Chinese guy who is more on the TAG side, but still does non taggy things, ie: this hand). (both Vs cover)
Ok so we go 4 to the flop and as noted in the title I smash it: KJ9r.
Like I said, pots are often stabbed at when Vs pick up a piece so I decided to check and evaluate what happens behind me. mistake with the check here?
I'm thrilled to see V2 in the bb make a huge overbet of $16 into the $8 pot. Im even more thrilled to see V1 flat the $16. I decide to just flat, rather than c/r because I think given the size of V2's bet he will fire again on the turn.
I flat and the turn is a beautiful 2. I check as planned.
V2 fires again as hoped for $30 this time. V1 flats the $30. At this point I decide its time to check raise. I make it $90 to go, leaving me $100 behind.
V2 folds in the bb and V1 flats the $90.
Here is where I feel like I made a mistake. At this point I was basically committed to shoving all rivers no matter what the river card looked like. Obviously really bad river cards are K,J,9s that might fill up 2 pair hands. I think that flopped sets are likely raising the flop given scary board texture. but I guess flopped sets are in V1s range too.
Anyway, the river came a J, making a final board of KJ92Jr. Such a bad river card. The only hand in V1's range it improves is AK. it scares K9 and every other hand im now beat. Anyway I wasn't thinking in the moment and just shoved for the last $100.
what do you guys do here?
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 99
I am looking to lead 3 streets here against station V and loose table in general. If I check the flop I'm usually looking to c/r. If you are going to c/r OTT I don't ever like checking and specially not c/f unless I have a read when a Kx comes OTR.
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,135
Bet every street. You need to start building a bigger pot in a limped hand. Bet flop, turn, and river. On the river, you're well past committed and should stick with your plan to shove. You're never folding and still get value from Kx/QJ/JT.