I have $95 in SB, been playing tight showing solid hands.

6-way limp pot, I'm SB with Jd3d.

V1/BB/$500: aggressive big stack, isn't really getting out of line just running hot and making big bets

V2/MP/$250: stereotypical super tight/nit old guy, only calls post flop with monsters and never bluffs

V3/Button/$70: terrible middle eastern guy, not even sure he knows what beats what lol

Flop Kd 7d 2d, I lead $10, v1 calls, v2 calls, v3 makes it 30. I just call. V1 now looks at v3 stack and puts him all in by making it ~65. v2 calls. v3 calls. Back to me with my remaining ~65 ???

v2/old guy has made all these calls pretty much instantly without thinking and alarm bells are going off in my head that he has to have the nuts

fold pre

Ughhh why are we even completing the sb with this trash????

We're 45bb deep, we flop flush and still dont know what to do....

ok yeah pre is questionable, im more concerned with the flop though guys

I will go broke with the 4th nut flush in a 3flush board any day. Buuuut, I'd be far more inclined to overlimp the button with something like this than to complete the SB. If I flop anything BUT the FD/flush I'm OOP and in a tough spot. And seeing flops with spec hands is super ******ed with 45bb anyway.

Just get it in now.. Not even worth posting. You can't fold

Pre is horrible. I mean completing the SB gives you IOs to flop a FD, but out of position with a short stack you will basically never be allowed the IOs to bink the flush. And literally anything else you can flop is trash.

Fold pre. I don't care how deep u are...limping pre with suited trash is a leak long term. As played call...u are only 50bb deep to start with the 4th nut flush. I'd prefer a resolve over first raise on flop to charge draws

if 6 people limp to my SB and I have been tight as **** ****, I don't really care about putting in $1 so people don't catch on that I'm some nit TAG

at this point it looks like you have 32BBs behind, and you are beat only by 2 higher flushes, so whatever

play with a full stack if you want to think about this spot more deeply

i'm going to assume you called and lost or else you wouldn't even bother posting this.

But don't beat yourself up about it - only thing you could do is fold pre - once you saw this flop there is nothing you can do but get the $$$ in.

If you are ahead you will have to dodge a gauntlet of cards to still be in the lead by the river. GL

nope

Jeez guys, was hoping for a little more than "omg we flop flush don't fold" and "jeez wtf dude fold pre youre an idiot"

Would really like to have a discussion on what kind of range you guys put villians on. I don't think this a clear cut omg we have 3rd nut flush ship it.

How different is it if we have another $100 behind?

I think the reason you're getting these responses is because when you're so short-stacked, you kind of have to get it in regardless, especially considering how big the pot is. It would be the same as if you flopped trip 3s, and then folded - the reason you're completing in the SB is to make a hand, which is what happened. If you were 150-200 BB deep, then you can begin to consider folding. As it stands you're paying $65 to make ~250, so it's not worth leveling yourself into a hero fold.

I try to complete my SB when I can...like SMJ said, I don't want to be thought of as a nit, because that can cost you action. That being said, I try to stay at 100-150+ BB when possible, and I think with 95$ it is a fold pf.

Guys, use position ffs. Overlimp the button/CO, don't complete the SB; it costs you 1/2 a blind more and saves you endless tough spots and opportunities to make -EV plays.

I agree that calling pre is a bad play though like was said earlier sometimes is good for your image, though I rather just fold and use that tight image to run people over when I am in position soon after

grunch: c/c every street

this is the only player that would make you think about laying down the 3rd best flush, but you're not too deep so i'd stick with it and hope for the best. i'd call it down and hope old man has a set or a worse flush or 2p.

This is an overlooked point. Not to hijack too much but I think for image retention purposes basically everything is worth the .5 BB to complete in a multiway limped pot. People, especially the fish, tend to make a big deal about how tight you are when you fold the SB in spots like this. If you are playing a lot of hands, no big deal. But since almost everyone here is tighter than the average, I think it's usually worth it.

Now that we've called, I'm not folding. I don't think it's as clear cut as people are making it out to be, but I think it's just barely worth a call.

fold.

What exactly are we beating here that V1, V2, and V3 are calling with? Are they all on combo draws or flopped sets/baby flushes? Sometimes "lolz we only got $90 left, ship it, don't ask questions" isn't the best response to a hand. I don't see how this could be a +EV situation especially with the given description of old nitty V calling.

Can somebody who advocates calling please tell me what range you put V1, V2, and V3 on?

Old nitty V could easily have a set or AdKx, V3 can be raising with a diamond or 2p (especially after being described as a complete fish), and V1 can be raising with any pair+fd or even just a top pair if he puts V3 on a diamond draw and thinks hero is weak. Stove it and please explain how you can fold getting 4-1.

Top off.

Fold pre.

AP, raise ai when V3 makes it 30.

When you're sitting with under 50 BBs it is as easy as flop a flush, get ai. I don't know what kind of shortstacking discussion you were looking for.

Is anyone folding if we have $165 more instead of the $65?