V1 is new to the table, seems fairly LAG, half way through his second bullet after ~ 20 hands. $100 OTB

V2 is LAG, has shoved at some point in ~ 5 of the last 30 hands. Bets his hand regardless of board texture. For this particular shove I gave him a range of 22+, ATs+, KQs. $200 in the BB

Hero is TAG, both V's have likely decided that hero is only entering pots with premium hands. $150 in the SB. Hero has AK

Some one in MP makes it $7, V1 raises to $25, V2 shoves out of turn, V in MP mucks, Dealer sighs and puts action on Hero. Hero?

My read here tells me V1 is calling regardless of Hero's action. If this is the case, the pot is effectively $250 and Hero has $150 behind with no money invested.

With a raise to 25 and the shove, I would assume somebody has a pair. In lieu of gambling I would probably play this one down and look for a better spot

Get it in.

V2 moves Allin with $200 out of turn with <$35 in the pot? ..wow.. good game.

Did you see any of his other 5 hands that he was getting all in with prior to this one? That would influence my choice.
Curious what would your action have been had he not acted out of turn? just Flat 25? or do you raise.

I'd guess V2 likely has something around ~ pp 88+, ATs+ . Against both Vs(lags) your hand is fairly strong, however, at least one of them likely has a pair after a bet, raise and an All-in. Having said that AA is the only hand that has you in an absolute Vice. just comes down to deciding if you like flipping for stacks , near 60/40 - 55/45 in either direction. If you want to avoid high variance, spots like this folding seems understandably reasonable.
With AKs not AKo, I likly get the money in happily if I was ready to gamble and/or winning big.

Wager all your pogs

Put your money in there. Put it in. Put your money in the pot.

if your range is correct then it's a snap call.

Your mostly going to be less then 50/50 to win but close to triple up when you hit and will only rarely be that far behind. If you have the bankroll for it, then you want to get your money in here. If you don't then folding isn't terrible because EV isn't going to be huge. From the sounds of these two folding is a leak, but without a big pair it can't be a big one, your just leaving a little money on the table.

House rules matter a little here. I'm assuming V2 is obligated to carry through with his out of turn shove if you just flat. If that is the case, then flat and let V2 shove. No matter what happens then your get it all in preflop with AKs and dead money in the pot. Really, you don't want V1 to fold here, you want more dead money because you probably have to hit something to win. If V2 is allowed to fold or otherwise change his action when you flat, then raising here some of the time is good.

When we know V1 for sure isnt going to fold, get it in if your BR is healthy enough for it

Is that action from the BB binding?

Thanks for your input guys! Yes BB's action was considered binding

Based on your descriptions, I'm gambling here. All in.

I agree with the ranges you explained you think he has you are absolutely crushing his sole and probably the worst case scenario is you are flipping. I'd just put it in against this type of guy.

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Your image doesn't matter with the action here.

If you're in a new room, you should probably ask the dealer "what's the rule on that OOT action?". In most rooms if the action in front of him doesn't change it's a binding bet. What constitutes a change in action can vary though. A raise from you is a change, but a call usually isn't.

SO ... if you want to get it it here, you say "call" and toss out the $25. Then after V1 acts you can shove.

This is a pretty easy "get it in" spot against these two villains. We're probably going to lose more often than we win, but getting 3 way action we're still +EV to call.

Say you are about flipping against any pair. They only hands that have you destroyed are AA and KK, which there are only 6 different ways they can make. If you believe he would ship with A10, AJ, AQ, then I would call since there are 36 ways they can have those hands.

So as long as you believe they are over shoving with those A10+ I think a good portion of the time you are either flipping, or way ahead.

I would more expect to see a hand like 99, TT or JJ since for some reason some people like to over jam those hands at 1/2 because they "don't want to see a flop."

Easy flat here so that the out of turn action stands. Then call the AI.

All in mane. You hold AK supreme and have like 75bbs

Thanks again for everyone's thoughts.

RESULTS: I called all in because BB's action was binding, V1 called as well.
Paired my ace OTF and it held. V1 mucked without showing and V2 showed 99