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03-23-2013 , 02:54 AM
Hero: been at the 1/2 table almost 90 minutes, not quite. I would imagine my image was in the middle somewhere; won two pots and lost a small one. And for anyone who was paying attention, fairly tight too.

Villain: he had over $400 behind and he appeared to be on the ball until I saw him play K2c (showdown) but I honestly don't remember if he was in a blind or not in that hand but I do know he was oop with his opponent and when a K hit the flop, he kept betting out, including on the river and his opponent called with KJ.
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Effective stacks: $145.00

4 limps including V around to me on the button, QQ. I raise to $10, two callers including V who's in MP3.

Pot: $30

Flop: 6810

check, check
Hero: $20.00
fold, V calls

Pot: $70

T: 7

V-check
Hero: $35.00 - V-calls

Pot: $140.00
R: 10

V-checks

Hero: ?
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03-23-2013 , 03:00 AM
Just check. We do have some showdown value, villain probably can't fold most of the hands that have us beat, and we shouldn't be able to get value from anything we beat. Hopefully river counterfeited villain.

BTW, I'm assuming we do not have Qc since it wasn't mentioned.
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03-23-2013 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son
Just check. We do have some showdown value, villain probably can't fold most of the hands that have us beat, and we shouldn't be able to get value from anything we beat. Hopefully river counterfeited villain.

BTW, I'm assuming we do not have Qc since it wasn't mentioned.
QQ
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03-23-2013 , 04:25 AM
You can bet 30 on the flop. And more on the turn and play for stacks really. You have the Qc so you shouldnt be worried.
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03-23-2013 , 04:32 AM
Bet more on flop and turn, check back river.
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03-23-2013 , 05:01 AM
thought this might be a brag about hookers after reading title.

hate the flop raise, 10 after 4 limpers ip??? minimum 15 here.

at 70bb, think i can stack off no matter what the runout is profitably against this guy
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03-23-2013 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fogodchao
thought this might be a brag about hookers after reading title.

hate the flop raise, 10 after 4 limpers ip??? minimum 15 here.

at 70bb, think i can stack off no matter what the runout is profitably against this guy
FINALLY somebody notices the "real" title!! LOL you go FOGO!!
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03-23-2013 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fogodchao
thought this might be a brag about hookers after reading title.

hate the flop raise, 10 after 4 limpers ip??? minimum 15 here.

at 70bb, think i can stack off no matter what the runout is profitably against this guy
I was wondering about that myself. In hindsight I was thinking $20 or is that too much? I don't know if any of them would have called that amount, nobody had been raising (preflop) to that amount prior to this hand.
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03-23-2013 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugsy2525
I was wondering about that myself. In hindsight I was thinking $20 or is that too much? I don't know if any of them would have called that amount, nobody had been raising (preflop) to that amount prior to this hand.
Doesn't mean they won't call.
18 is where I'd go, but anything around that is fine
Super wet flop with a multiway pot and an overpair should make your flop bet pot sized or higher.
Turn would have been more interesting without the Qc.
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03-23-2013 , 08:41 AM
Raise it to 15-20 pre + bet more on flop + turn, i'd check back river.
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03-23-2013 , 09:25 AM
Grunch:

Re-buy if you get below 80bbs. Raise bigger over four limpers.

AP, bet pot OTF into two players.

AP, only bet turn if we have Qc

AP, I check it back OTR. Board is wetter then my prom date at the after party, and nothing you can beat calls a bet here.
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03-23-2013 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugsy2525
Effective stacks: $145.00

4 limps including V around to me on the button, QQ. I raise to $10, two callers including V who's in MP3.

Pot: $30

Flop: 6810

check, check
Hero: $20.00
fold, V calls

Pot: $70

T: 7

V-check
Hero: $35.00 - V-calls

Pot: $140.00
R: 10

V-checks

Hero: ?
Bet more preflop, raise $15 - $20, whatever the table threshold for calling is. $10 seems way too light. Also, is the open in your 1/2nl game $4. Even though most games "say" they are 1/2nl, the open is usually $4. And if that is the case, you can EASILY raise $15 - $20 preflop.

As for the flop. You can always overbet flops in 1/2nl. Players don't really think in terms of the size of the pot, but rather about how many chips they have and how they have more than enough chips to call $30 or $40 on the flop. So easily bet pot or even 1.5 x pot. They will put you on "AK" and call you down as long as no Ace or King is on the board, so you really want to take advantage of that.

If you had bet more preflop and on the flop then you could have shoved turned.

As played, the turn is a sick card, but you can go for a razor thin value bet or a check back. I think you can make a case for either line.

River is an easy check back.
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03-23-2013 , 04:13 PM
real problem here is the PFR size, turn can be a check or a bet depending on villain's tendencies but I'd probably check it back and give up without a real good reason.

Realistically when the worst or 2nd worst card in the deck hits I think shutting down is the best line.
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03-23-2013 , 04:21 PM
Preflop is obvious too small. I would check river.

Why would you overbet this flop digi? board is connected and super wet. You either lose value or get value owned imo.
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