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08-13-2017 , 01:52 PM
Hi, I was hoping for some advice on this spot I found myself in, we are about £400 effective. First straddler is a young reg, second is an older guy, have seen him bluffing in previous sessions.

I think my preflop raise is a little on the large side, I think my flop c bet is ok? When turning an open ender should I just take the free card? Thanks very much for any help....

I started with around £650. Double straddled pot. First straddler had me covered, second straddler had around £400. Playing 6 handed.
I was first to act with 9-Tcc, I raised to £40, folds to straddles who both call.

Flop A-7-3 rainbow, checked to me. I bet £90 into £123. Both call. Pot now around £390. Turn is an 8, again both players check to me. Any advice here would be very helpful, is betting ever an option?

Cheers
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08-13-2017 , 03:09 PM
It's an £38 double straddle? I don't mind the open, but agree that it's too large, as we're only 80"BBs" deep and have a speculative hand. If I open here (I'd often fold pre, depending on game dynamics), I'd make it about £25.

AP, I don't mind the c-bet, but once they both call on that very dry ace-high board, I am done with the hand. Definitely not betting when we turned so much equity. I'd take my free card. If we brick out and someone bets, I'd fold river easily and make some comment about kings being ace-magnets. If checked to us a third time, I'd probably bet it, as I don't see many aces checking three times, especially after you check turn. I wouldn't be too surprised to be snapped off by some crap like A4s, though.
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08-13-2017 , 03:25 PM
I don't mind preflop as the occasional mix it up but not often, even less with the double straddle reducing effective blinds. Size depends on the table but with a double straddle to £8 in play £30-40 seems reasonable. On the flop c-betting 2 opponents is OK but again less then half the time. It's ace high, you have multiple opponents and you have little equity if you are called.

On the turn take the free card every time. You have decent equity now but a raise will kill your odds.
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08-13-2017 , 03:28 PM
Mostly +1 Garick.

I wouldn't bet the river without a read that V's are a bit nitty. True, they don't have many aces that will check 3x. But then we don't have a lot of decent hands that check flop and turn either. Since there really aren't any draws to call the flop, I think many hands that found a flop call will also find a river call after all the weakness being shown. Plus, two V's to get through.
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08-13-2017 , 03:56 PM
Sorry first straddle £5, second £10
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08-13-2017 , 04:09 PM
I made a big mistake in this hand by betting the turn ����. I bet £200 and was insta min raised by utg, other guy folds, I think the pot here is close to £1k, I have to call getting almost 5-1 to hit my straight? I need to think before acting in future!!
River was an 8, he shoved I obviously had to fold for £150 effective��
The older guy who folded wasn't happy at all, he had A8, he kept asking me why I bet the turn, answer me he said, why did you bet the turn?? I didn't really have an answer!
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08-13-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by warpau31
I made a big mistake in this hand by betting the turn ����. I bet £200 and was insta min raised by utg, other guy folds, I think the pot here is close to £1k, I have to call getting almost 5-1 to hit my straight? I need to think before acting in future!!
River was an 8, he shoved I obviously had to fold for £150 effective��
The older guy who folded wasn't happy at all, he had A8, he kept asking me why I bet the turn, answer me he said, why did you bet the turn?? I didn't really have an answer!
Doubt he had A8 at all, unless he showed you his cards.

Fold pre, you dont make money opening T high UTG 6-max, especially against loose fish
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08-13-2017 , 06:47 PM
Also, check turn
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08-14-2017 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Doubt he had A8 at all, unless he showed you his cards.

Fold pre, you dont make money opening T high UTG 6-max, especially against loose fish
He's in the CO though, and I'd be willing to bet 1/2 guys ain't playing too aggressively from the straddle spots... I like the open down to T9s esp if he's good post.

Flop bet locked in a free river, cool, take it.

I would have kept asking the other guy why he folded A8, it's a better question than his.
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08-14-2017 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
He's in the CO though, and I'd be willing to bet 1/2 guys ain't playing too aggressively from the straddle spots... I like the open down to T9s esp if he's good post.

Flop bet locked in a free river, cool, take it.

I would have kept asking the other guy why he folded A8, it's a better question than his.
As in i dont believe he folded top two to a turn min-raise, esp with no straights

Well, OP didn't play this hand very well by betting turn when he could just take free card IP, plus when two people call here one or both are trapping/have an A that are never folding, so OP is just putting in money behind with T high and no fold equity

Flop bet is super ambitious too, especially with no backdoor clubs

Last edited by Minatorr; 08-14-2017 at 01:48 AM.
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