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06-07-2018 , 06:10 AM
Villain (CO): 20s black guy, TAG reg (covers)
Hero (SB): late 20s Asian guy, villain knows hero as TAG reg ($300)

Villain opens $10 from CO. Hero calls 99 in the SB. BB folds.

Flop: T76 ($20)

Hero checks. Villain bets $20. Hero calls.

Turn: J ($57)

Hero checks. Villain bets $25. Hero ???
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06-07-2018 , 06:27 AM
You can easily just fold the flop to the full pot C-bet on this board OOP with second pair,where near every turn is a bad card for you or an overcard wich will lead to a myriad of sticky situations.

At least now fold the turn when another overcard hits.
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06-07-2018 , 09:35 AM
For the most part just give up the flop, the call heads up OOP was mostly to set mine and you didn't hit. Even if you know villain can be c-betting a lot you should mostly give up to the pot sized bet.

After that this needs more information about villain. Regular TAG doesn't give enough information about his opening range, his c-betting frequency and what he gives up on the turn. The weak turn betting size looks favorable but you want a villain that has some air in his range and will often give up one pair to a turn raise. Depending on opponent a turn raise can be good or bad, there isn't a generic answer.
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06-07-2018 , 09:50 AM
Raise flop to $70.
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06-07-2018 , 11:53 AM
V's turn sizing looks kind of suspicious to me, like a weak top pair hand (QT/KT come to mind). So the real Q is can we call, can we rep diamonds as well if we miss? If that is the case, i might call here and eval the river. Although I agree that the standard play would be to just muck (or CR turn/lead river).
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06-07-2018 , 12:00 PM
Preflop:

3bet > fold > flat
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06-07-2018 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Preflop:

3bet > fold > flat
You actually think he will lose money as a big favorite (58%+) against his opponent's range? Positional disadvantage is not that large.
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06-07-2018 , 07:20 PM
I was mostly making a point but flatting the sb is literally the worst play in poker. It is a huge torch under any HU scenario and only gets okish in mw scenarios but its still mostly a torch.
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06-07-2018 , 07:45 PM
Fold flop
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06-08-2018 , 02:21 AM
Dont fold the flop unless you’re experiencing a stroke.

3-bet pre and call flop as played. Raising is an overplay and folding is absurd.

Call the turn for this sizing. Tons of bluffs improved and his sizing went down.
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06-08-2018 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
You can easily just fold the flop to the full pot C-bet on this board OOP with second pair,where near every turn is a bad card for you or an overcard wich will lead to a myriad of sticky situations.

At least now fold the turn when another overcard hits.
You're not gonna like what happens next

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Originally Posted by Avaritia
I was mostly making a point but flatting the sb is literally the worst play in poker. It is a huge torch under any HU scenario and only gets okish in mw scenarios but its still mostly a torch.
For sure in tougher games I would only 3 bet the SB. That's what I do in online poker anyways. But in such a soft game unless the BB is a competent player who can abuse my capped range, I'd rather just 3 bet stronger hands with bluffs mixed in than a hand like 99 and face a stronger range postflop than if I had just flatted.

In this hand BB looked ready to muck his hand so I was effectively closing the action anyways.

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Villain (CO): 20s black guy, TAG reg (covers)
Hero (SB): late 20s Asian guy, villain knows hero as TAG reg ($300)

Villain opens $10 from CO. Hero calls 99 in the SB. BB folds.

Flop: T76 ($20)

Hero checks. Villain bets $20. Hero calls.

Turn: J ($57)

Hero checks. Villain bets $25. Hero raises to $90. Villain calls.

River: 7 ($237)

Hero ???
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06-08-2018 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
You're not gonna like what happens next



For sure in tougher games I would only 3 bet the SB. That's what I do in online poker anyways. But in such a soft game unless the BB is a competent player who can abuse my capped range, I'd rather just 3 bet stronger hands with bluffs mixed in than a hand like 99 and face a stronger range postflop than if I had just flatted.

In this hand BB looked ready to muck his hand so I was effectively closing the action anyways.

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Villain (CO): 20s black guy, TAG reg (covers)
Hero (SB): late 20s Asian guy, villain knows hero as TAG reg ($300)

Villain opens $10 from CO. Hero calls 99 in the SB. BB folds.

Flop: T76 ($20)

Hero checks. Villain bets $20. Hero calls.

Turn: J ($57)

Hero checks. Villain bets $25. Hero raises to $90. Villain calls.

River: 7 ($237)

Hero ???
Can't check for obvious reasons. Time to merge/rep diamonds and bet $150 to hopefully get better 1 pair hands to fold. We cannot win at SD with our holding. 7 might actually be the best card in the deck for us to barrel here as now AT/KT/QT can't beat 87/97/75 ether.
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