Hero (250$): TAG reg, knows most players at the table. Plays pretty much ABC but can get tricky when opponents show weakness post flop.

Villain (600$): TAG, has played with hero a few times. Decent player, very similar playing style as hero.

V2 (800$): Crazy aggro fish, raises pretty much every hand to 12$, bluffs a lot.

Hero is dealt AA UTG, raises to 12$. V2 (in the CO) calls as expected, Villain (in the SB) 3bets to 37$. Hero tanks for like 20 seconds and sigh calls (hollywood), hoping V2 will make a mistake. V2 unfortunately folds and we go heads up to the flop.

Flop (80$): 8107

Villain bets 60$, hero calls.
He was definitely on an overpair (maybe AK) so I knew he would continue to bet on the turn and that I was ahead 99% of the time.

Turn (200$): 5

Villain bets 50$ (???), hero shoves for 153$.
I didn't want to call because any K, Q, J, 9, 5, or diamond on the river could kill me, so I shoved, hoping he would call with an overpair+a diamond.

Should I have just called and hoped the river was a blank?

Please don't sigh call a 3bet utg. Any thinking opponent should immediately recognize that for strength. I'm fine with a tank call. I wouldn't 4bet since we have position on the raiser.

On the flop, it's time to shove. The pot is $140 and you only have $185 left. A shove is about a 2/3 pot size raise. The board has way to much texture to just call.

As played, you are correct to shove the turn. Never just call with 3 to a suit on the board without the suited A.

PF: OK. Just curious, why didn't we 4bet? We are hoping V2 calls so the pot would be $113 and the SPR would be 1.8.

F: Pot is $88 and we've got $213 for an SPR of 2.4. So V1 bets $60. What do we put him on? He just 3B an UTG raiser (he must know your range is strong here) in the SB. He's got a good hand. Likely JJ+, AK. With this range, I think we should be raising this flop. I would hate for an Ace, King, or diamond fall on the turn and kill some action. If he's got AK, then you really aren't getting any more money anyway.

Your analysis makes sense, although I still like raising. He may not put us on AA or KK since we didn't 4bet.

T: Pot is $208 and we've got $153 left. V1 bets $50. WTF? Is he scared of the diamond? Shoving here is fine. Again, I don't like calling, because I don't want another diamond to kill the action.

Your original question was, did I lose value with AA? I think you did pre by not 4 betting. Rarely if ever at 1/2 I see a 3bet fold at these stakes. 3bet from the small blind seems like JJ+ AK.

This looks bad. Why lead out? Limp/raise this all day long.

Also, not 3 betting is a big mistake.

Flop:

Raise the villian's $60 bet please. If he flopped a set of tens, you'll just have to lose that money. If he is on a flush draw, get the money in with good odds.

This hand was played to fancy.

omg, don't sigh call pre!

Raise and GII on flop. This is not a board to flat and play fancy.
Its wet and if villain has an OP, he can call putting you on draws. Plus the fact that more than half the deck will be scare cards and kill the action.

Yes you missed value by not 4-betting pre. Should have 4-bet to $110- $125 and I would have got my stack in on any flop.

DO NOT 4 bet pre, unless your 4 bet range contains a lot more than AA AND these guys know it. (Don't sigh call, either)

This is really a good hand to play rope a dope with the aggro fish. I'm fine with calling the turn and seeing if he fires again OTR. I'm guessing from his sizing OTT though it's not likely you get stacks in here. However, you might get one more small bet.

Just remember, you will need some portion of your range as calldown hands vs this guy, and this hand is a good candidate.

PRE FLOP: You should be 4-betting preflop. A raise to 79 makes the pot 172, assuming v2 folds, and it would put your stack at 171 meaning that should your villain decide to flat you should shove on pretty much every flop. Flatting to try and keep V2 in seems like a bad play because you are in between two players and because of V2 being loose and V1 being tight it could create awkward situations Post Flop. Its better to just try and get the money in now.

As Played:
Flop: Villain bets $60 into this pot. This is a perfect time to raise all in. I expect villain to be calling an all in raise with the following hands: TT+and AdJd+ we are ahead against all of these hands except for TT so this play will have tremendous profits in the long run.

As played...
Turn: Well this is certainly a card we don't want to see. The problem here is that the flush hit, but we have so much committed in the hand already that'd it'd be almost always wrong to fold here. I don't know if I would shove here or not, but either way the hand should've never gotten to this point.

Also as a sidenote never sigh and then call. Its better to give off no tells at all than to try and give off fake ones. Tanking and then calling would be better as it makes it seem like you are actually thinking about calling.

Thanks for the input guys.

The reason I didn't 4bet pre is because I wanted the aggro fish to continue and I felt that if I 4bet, he would panic and fold, whereas if I flat called the 3bet, he might continue with junk. Also, I knew I would be getting paid by villain in the SB on pretty much any flop since his 3bet range vs a UTG raise is very small (JJ+ AK, maybe tens).

Also, you guys are right, I shouldn't have sigh called. Hollywooding is a bad habit of mine, gotta stop doing that.

Most of you also said to shove the flop; would JJ/QQ/KK/AK really call a shove? Maybe KK, but I doubt anything else that I beat (which is most of his range) calls here.

Btw, should I post results?

fancy play AA gets you in sticky situation, it's just one pair. I make a lot of money cracking AA because V fancy play try to rope me along and then shove when I caught up.

Not 4bet pre is fine but you gotta raise that flop, there is a straight and flush draw there. If you plan on shoving when the diamond hits then i'm guessing you'll shove when a J,9, or 6 hit as well? If that's the case then you're giving V the option of drawing and waiting till his hand catch up to call your all in.

Not 4-betting is fine because it turns our hand face up and let's our opponents play perfectly. Stack sizes will allow us to GII comfortably on most flops. I shove this flop as a lot of hands will fit this board while making us look bluffy. The turn changes little, as he'd have to have specifically AQ/AKdd that would 3b. IMO its unlikely V 3! TT. Since we have blockers we have to discount them. The other hand we should consider is KKd. We have significant equity versus it and they're not folding to a shove OTT. Not to mention V has made a very weak bet that screams "please let me see the river cheaply".

Yep you could easily get called by worse. By just flatting pre, your hand is way under repped. Doubt he puts you on AA or KK.

With such a wet board, a semi-bluff shove with flush\straight\combo draw on the flop is very much in your range.

And as others have already said, half the deck coming on the turn will kill your action. Need to get that money in on the flop.

Finely, I'm in the 4! Pre camp. These stakes profit comes from playing big value hands fast. Bet, bet, bet when in doubt bet


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