I'm sitting with $350 ish, so 175 bb's deep, in UTG +3

UTG limps, he has 50 bb's or so. He open limps frequently.
I raise to $9 with Ac5c
UTG +4 calls - he has me covered
CO calls, he has about 100 bb's
SB calls, he has me covered as well.
UTG folds.

UTG+4 has been very splashy and loose calling preflop raises. Not terribly out of line, but def calls OOP with marginal holdings.

SB has been slighly less splashy, but def isn't a rock. We played one hand a few hours ago where he bluffed off $100 in a heads up pot to me, but otherwise has been pretty solid.

No reads on CO, new to table.

Flop - Ad, 5s, 6d

SB checks

I lead out for $20 - Maybe a hair small. My plan on the turn was to check raise any non-diamond or 6. I also wanted to protect my turn checking range.

UTG+4 calls

CO calls

SB raises to $120

Hero...??

I put him on a range of: 55,66,A5,A6,65, or a flush draw. Maybe he had a small probability of something goofy like Ax with maybe the K/Q/J of diamonds, but to me it felt like a strong move. His body language and how he put his money in the pot didn't yell "fold".

I'm crushing 65, a smallish fav vs the flush draw, chopping with A5, and getting crushed by the rest.

*Also, there's always the possibility that the two players behind me have a big hand.

Thoughts?

$20 is a lot if you're getting a toothless bj from a crackhead but it isn't much if the pots large?? How big is it on the flop. Try to include the size of the pot on each street. It would make it easier for people to give feedback.

I would include some Kxdd 78dd 34dd a non zero percentage of the time. I'm not there I haven't been observing the players but it's possible. It's a slim chance and probably doesn't make up for all the times he shows up with 56xx, 66, A6 at they are the most likely

Pot on flop was $41 - so I led for $20 which was about half the pot.

My lead for $20, combined with the calls from the UTG+4 and the CO put the pot at $101 when the SB raised to $120. So he's raising slightly over the pot.

I would not be concerned about UTG+4 and CO. If they had a hand that beat yours, they most likely would have raised your flop bet.

Flat calling seems to be out of the question here as it could price UTG+4 and CO in.

If you think you're ahead of SB, put the rest in. If behind, fold.

He shouldn't have a draw here. Is he the type to possibly just have AX here? Given the betting dynamic on the flop, it is very difficult for you, UTG+4, and CO to continue to his x/r.

What would you do if you had AK here? What's the real difference between AK and A5 in this exact spot (other than losing to 65)?

Yeah flatting seems awful. It would price one or both of the others in. As played, I folded. I just had a sick feeling I was beat.

I guess there really isn't much of a difference between A5 and AK in this spot. I think AK was one of the hands he's putting me on - and with raising that much, he seems confident he's either ahead (or feels like he can move me off the hand).

I agree with your assessment and I think folding the majority of the time is the correct play.

Some players are good at reading a situation like this, knowing that they can move you off AQ/AK or force you to bet your entire stack, and that only the CO can reasonably call the x/r if you and UTG+4 both fold - and only do it with a draw. So he would at worst have a hand that is behind yours but is ahead of all draws. If he is this kind of player, then there's an argument to be made for occasionally reshoving.

Did he show?

Can’t he have AK? A lot of people don’t always 3-bet AK. If he has that, he would expect to be ahead of you most of the time on this flop. I would expect AK to be in his range here.

No he didn't show unfortunately :-/ But your point makes sense. I'll def keep that in mind.

I mentioned in my initial post that I felt a small percentage of the time he could be messing around with AK, AQ, AJ - with a . So yes that was built into my line of thinking.

You have shown a lot of strength cbetting into several players on a A high flop and he is still raising you.

That being said I think I'm getting it in here. Draw heavy board and there are a few value hands you beat.

I'm folding, top and bottom is much weaker than top 2. I dont think villain gets frisky with flush draws that aren't open ended