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1/2 Deep. Value raise river with nuts or go for it all? 1/2 Deep. Value raise river with nuts or go for it all?

09-24-2014 , 06:08 AM
Table weak besides one aggro reg that's only been at table about an hour but has been trying to run it over and playing and winning big pots. 30Ish wearing a "Run good" t shirt, knows dealers.

Whole table limps to hero on button with Q10 calls. Villian $(800) hero covers.

Flop 8 handed ($15) QJ10ss BB leads $15 call call call to me i make it $50. Original better shoves for $96 villian cold calls everyone else folds to me i call.

Turn ($320ish) 5s villian checks i check behind

River 10 villian leads $100, i obviously put him on flush, he has $600 behind. Pot is now $420 and we have basically the nuts. What do you raise to $300? $350? All in? Personally i didn't think he would stack off $600 more dollars with boat getting there, so is it just a value raise?
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09-24-2014 , 06:24 AM
That "run good" tshirt is all the read you need. Shove.

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(As for his range, I discount QQ and JJ because of the EP limp and card removal. He's more likely bluffing than betting a flush. He is expecting a call from a flush and a value bet from a boat. A polarizing bet forces him to consider the possibility that you are bluffing, and gives him incentive to call with a flush or a bluff catcher. I guess you don't have to shove to issue a polarized bet, but imo a polarized bet is called for.)

Last edited by AbqDave; 09-24-2014 at 06:45 AM. Reason: Either he calls, or not. Maximize profit when he does.
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09-24-2014 , 07:04 AM
With an empty side pot a bluff would be pretty brainless here. Not that i havent seen it. Im shoving here.
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09-24-2014 , 03:20 PM
Villain cold call flop smells like JT or AT/KT.

River bet skews him towards his value range given the action/side pot.

Target JT and shove. He's not going to call any rr anyways with a hand like KQ/Q9.

Enjoy raking in a monster pot
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09-24-2014 , 03:32 PM
It's not as much as a shove as everyone thinks. You need to figure out if he is capable of folding a 9 high flush if you ship. If he is capable of folding flushes, I'd go $280. If not, obviously ship
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09-24-2014 , 04:06 PM
I ended up making it $350, I thought he'd have to call giving the money already in, I thought hecould most likely find a fold for $600 more. He called and showed a 9high flush.
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09-25-2014 , 08:40 AM
NH. I like the enticing value bet OTR. Worse may not call a shove. Sometimes this is the best way to make money at LLSNL.
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09-25-2014 , 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeatron
It's not as much as a shove as everyone thinks. You need to figure out if he is capable of folding a 9 high flush if you ship. If he is capable of folding flushes, I'd go $280. If not, obviously ship
Mostly this, but you describe V here as a LAG trying to run the table over at a 1/2 game? Lol. He's not folding a flush.

Ship.
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09-25-2014 , 08:49 AM
I'm pretty sure you got max value OTR, given RUNGOOD shirt's range. You should have asked him if he's sponsored before making the bet.
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09-25-2014 , 12:38 PM
Raising the flop is really bad.

Also, if you want to raise the flop (which you shouldn't), the raise size needs to be WAY bigger.
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09-25-2014 , 01:57 PM
River bet is fine ... He would've paid more attention to the situation if you shove I think. Especially with med flush here.

I think he's even calling down with 10x here for $350 .. better to get 350 all the time than to get the max very little of the time IMO. GL
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