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Originally Posted by Ellegance
... and extract max thin value etc.
What does this even mean?
I don't mind the call pre, for exactly the reason you described: when you don't hit (more often then not) your 3! still obliges you to fire a c-bet at a bloated pot oop.
Otf, though, I'm gonna just donk out close to pot. That's a wet board, and we'll figure to have the best hand, and drawing hands need to be taxed to force them into mistakes. A check-raise is ok too, but I'm not a big fan of the move myself. Regardless, playing this flop passively is just asking for trouble. TPTK loses value as the hand progresses. We should be getting more in when we're ahead.
Don't be too worried about folding out hands you crush, rather seek value from decent lesser hands and draws (Kx, Qx, XXcc), which this flop oozes.