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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
It's rather moot whether he does or not (our bet is simply to prevent a mistake of letting him get there with worse for free), but it's still possible he calls it off with TT (overpair + gutshot) or flush draw (which is often overs + flush draw).
Yes, we often run into better (nice hand sir), but there's nothing much else we should be doing at this point (plus we can suck out on some hands).
Everyone is playing this pot postflop as if we flatted the raise preflop. But we didn't, for better or worse we 3bet, and now postflop should be a trivial large bet / ship the rest, imo.
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Thanks for your excellent points. I'm still hung up on V's range and the story V is telling. With what range does V overcall (with two players incl. SB raiser still behind him preflop) and then flat this flop?
Is he overcalling QQ-TT here? QQ/JJ I dont think so; maybe V decides to setmine with TT. Looks like suited connectors and preflop overcall suggests V wants action from 2 other Vs and H.
What is he's flatting flop with? High-confidence range is 99/66 and suited connector combos with a straight draw and possibly flush draw. I cannot see suited one-gappers here given the huge overcall. Maybe he's flatting/eval TT on this flop. (I don't think he would have limped/overcalled AA/KK/AKs/AQs.)
H indeed should bet flop bigger I think. He has nearly given straight pot odds to many drawing hands. But I recommend a passive line on turn and hope river bricks. But 6h turn is a terrible card for H.
I think H is behind V's range so I just can't find a shove here at all. We have limited FE and we're maybe drawing dead. But I can find some x/c here at pot odds.
What rivers will H be happy with? Likely any K or Q, 3Js, 4 2's, 3's - so maybe 19/46. So I would x hoping V offers me these type river odds with his turn bet. Of course, H will still have to make hero call on river to thinking V's likely aggression. He could probably only lead with a river J.