4-handed 1/2

V is a good LAG reg who raises a lot pre, calls a lot of 3bets, views me as reg too.

V ($160) opens to $6, BTN folds, Hero ($200) looks down at AQ in SB and calls, BB ($100) calls

Flop ($18): QJT
Hero checks, BB checks, V bets $14, Hero calls, BB folds

Turn ($46): 7
Hero checks, V bets $28, Hero ?


Preflop: 3betting is probably the right play vs him, but since he never folds, and I'd be OOP postflop, I decided to call. Snowie says 3betting to $20 has an EV of 1.26, while calling has an EV of 1.21. So is it that big of a mistake? If I 3bet pre, and miss flop, I am in a tough spot vs this guy often.

Flop: Snowie recommends to fold 52% and raise 48% of the time here, and never calls??! Seems like a clear call since this guy can easily cbet a ton of worse hands.

Snowie sucks. Not much help in this hand, but its the truth. That's all I have to say about that.

Call/call/ probably call


3b it pre next time bro

if he calls a lot of 3bets, don't 3bet pre OOP.

call turn

Too strong to flat 100% vs V.

If he has a wide r/c range to include stuff like A7o, why should we not want to 3b a hand like AQo? While it isn't the very top of our range, it is going to play fairly well against his range if he decides to r/c too much.

In this particular hand, we get a not terrific board and we should prob be x/c down OOP whether we're the 3bettor or blind caller (depending on pot size, etc). But that isn't always the case. Sometimes it comes ace high and we stack his A8, sometimes it comes KJT and we stack his KTo, sometimes we both miss and we take the pot with initiative, etc.


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Hid idea for not raising is likely, "good lag" don't want to play 3b pot OOP and get put in tough spots.

Which has merit, if you're not going to be calling off light enough vs a guy who is going to put a ton of pressure on you, flatting is the play. Also, the idea behind flatting is good if you're going to be flatting wide and want to mix in some stronger hands.

we have AQ suited, which has the potential to stack him. So, do we really wanna fold him out pre and take down 6 dollars, OR have him 4bet shove and have to probably fold it, and lose that possibility

But most importantly if he flats and we flop air, we're in a bloated pot and have to start firing hoping he folds and since he has 80 big blinds, we're pretty much shoving the flop. I would rather have deeper stacks when I 3bet OOP.

Stacks are bit awkward.

But still 3 betting for massive value. Raise to $20. Creating SPR of less than 4.



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a) So you see us having a much better chance to stack him when we go to the flop OOP with $13 in the pot ($8 after drop) and $152 behind? How many boards do you see allowing us to do that under those conditions? Do you think he's going to see A228A and decide to go overbet/overbet/shove while holding JT? Villain is described as a good LAG, not a maniac or drunk. He has the option to check behind the turn after he sees that his c-bet doesn't work out. It is in our best interest to create a smaller SPR and take initiative when we are out of position with a hand that can make strong top pair hands.

b) In regard to the case where he flats and we flop air: Yeah, that's going to happen sometimes. That isn't enough of a reason to decide that we should start playing bingo rather than poker by flatting and hoping to connect with the board. By having the initiative OOP we can c-bet and take it down a decent chunk of the time when we both miss. Sometimes we c-bet a ten high flop, he calls with a pair or a draw, and then we get a J/Q/K/A and get a chance to barrel while either holding or representing a fairly strong hand.

c) Also disagree with the point about deeper stacks making the 3bet a better option. At 300 blinds deep I'm far more likely to encounter some ugly spots while holding TPTK in comparison to 50 blinds deep when my opponent has a decent chance to shrug shove pocket pairs on Qxx flops.

Ok so we have the weaker range on the flop, seeing as how he has AA KK and AK and we dont. This is a very wet flop (which majorly favors the villain who has position). Also, since it's a pretty wet flop, villain (who is pretty good) will be tempted to bet many of his decent (but vulnerable) hands. Im not too sure about poker snowie, but the reason its saying to never call (which I dont agree with) is because the flop is so wet, favoring the player in position. Does pokersnowie take into account who has the stronger range? my guess is no. Check calling on wet board textures is a pretty weak play, but sometimes it obviously needs to be done. Aq would probly be at the top of my check calling range. So assuming we're 3 betting AA KK qq, and AK preflop:

I would probably check raise: 89s (3), JJ (3), TT (3), QJs(3), TJs(2). so lets say = 15 value hand combos. Plus maybe some flush draws (2). The value hands are hands that we are possible willing to play for stacks, so I wouldnt want to include hands worse than AA here I think (since he has this in his range).
We might want to check raise bluff around 22 hand combos (bluffing around 1.5x the amount of value hands we're raising).

So the next best hand is Aq, which we'd obviously call with. as well as some other decently strong hands that we dont necessarily want to play for stacks with. But ya, we'd want to just check fold a decent amount vs this player on this flop. fwiw, on a dry flop, we can check call wayyyyy more hands oop than on a wet flop.

So after we check call with Aq, the turn brings possible flushes into the mix, which lessens our relative hand strength. We knew this could be a possibility after the flop, which is why we dont want to check call with too many hands on the flop. However, we are check calling with some flush draws too, so villlain shouldnt be able to barrel this all that profitably. I think I probably call the turn bet and evaluate river but I dont think a fold is terrible.

This is all talking about trying to play balanced poker, which is probably what you'd want to do, unless you have a good idea about how to exploit this player.

Just guessing, snowiest is also 3!, pre



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Actually hero has the stronger range otf.

AP, prob ck-r/shove turn at 100bb he has lots of pair+ hands - thinnish but still tptk+gtr+bdnfd. Wouldn't been a no brainer hand had you 3b.

Ofcourse.

Okay, so I called the turn to evaluate the river.

Flop ($18): Q J T
Hero checks, BB checks, V bets $14, Hero calls, BB folds

Turn ($46): 7
Hero checks, V bets $28, Hero calls

River ($102): 7
Hero checks, V bets $62, Hero ???

clicky clicky call and yeah

Pre: yeah, raising here short handed

Flop: TPTK+BDFD+GSSD+overcard, raise please

Turn: are we ever folding? I can see calling to keep his bluffs in though



Not folding AQs to a lags 4!. Our dynamic should already be as such that AQs is an auto stack off for 80bb

Realistically, we should be 3! Him linearly and dropping the low Axs/all Kxs/all SC from our 3! Range and value overloading it with big PP and Ax Broadway's. He can flat all he wants to but with an SPR of like 3.5 otf, are we ever going anywhere regardless of the flop?

Agree with everything. Nice post.

That seems to be suicide. What do you expect a decent player to stack off here?

Okay, so I called the RIVER.

Flop ($18): Q J T
Hero checks, BB checks, V bets $14, Hero calls, BB folds

Turn ($46): 7
Hero checks, V bets $28, Hero calls

River ($102): 7
Hero checks, V bets $62, Hero calls

V flips over 98o for the flopped straight.