Hero($240): Been in the game one hour. Splashed through my first buy-in by getting it in good and getting rivered. MP villain in this hand is an out of towner/not sure of his perception.

Villain MP($124): Younger kid. Has not been aggressive preflop. Has taken the betting lead postflop several times, seemingly on first level thinking. Has bet until someone tells him he is beat.

Villain CO($300): Passive. Fit or fold. We have played together enough that when I sat down he said something out loud expressing he was not happy to see me at the table.

Hero has 65 in BB. 9 handed.
Preflop: MP limps, CO limps, Button limps, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop(5 players/$10-rake): A65.
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $10, CO calls $10, button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn(3 players/$40-rake): 7.
Hero checks, MP bets $30, CO folds, Hero check-raises all-in...

Pot is $175 after rake, $82 for villain to call.

Thoughts?

Spew. Why are you turning your hand into a bluff? The only thing that you beat that is gonna look you up is something like AxKd and you still don't like that.

Just call and revaluate river. If he shoves the river, it's kinda a gross spot, but he probably won't as most players are very scared of a made flush (unless they already have one).

It's not a bluff if the villain won't fold Ax or we need to charge diamond draws

Just lead the flop. You can get value from both Ax and the Kd or whatever, and you really don't want this to get checked through.

C/R flop.

I agree with Raidion. I don't see much worse calling here. I also think leading flop is better than c/ calling.

rather lead or c/r flop and plan on committing on safe run outs

Lead flop for 12-15. Drag along the big ace. I could see the check-raise ott. I do it all the time. Really V dependent though. Fish's do not understand check-raises and still cannot get away from a high ace, or a high diamond in this case.

tough to get called by worse here. I'd either lead flop or check/raise reping a made flush.

I think leading pot is probably best though.

I didn't lead the flop because I am not terribly concerned about picking up $9...and I don't care to get raised here in a limped pot. I understand the reasons for leading, but I decided I would rather check and see what develops.

When it gets bet by a wide range and called by a passive player I peel this flop. To those who say check-raise: with intent of taking it down right there?

OTT I feel MP would bet bigger if he had a made flush(unless it is the nuts or second nuts). When CO folds I raise MP for value. I just feel I have the best hand here most of the time. There is also a small % he will fold a better hand. Don't laugh at me. That is rude. What I really mean is I would not mind a fold from a hand that has a lot of outs against me...

I agree that leading the flop would be good, I don't however on C/R the flop simply because too many people(that I have played with) at these levels do a MIN check raise on the flop 90% of the time with 2 pair or a set, so you may blow him off the hand with a worse hand and lose value, depends on villain of course if he is NF TPTK, then it could work, it's player/read dependent.

[QUOTE=TripleH68;38304039]I didn't lead the flop because I am not terribly concerned about picking up $9...and I don't care to get raised here in a limped pot. I understand the reasons for leading, but I decided I would rather check and see what develops.

This,

on this board I see where your coming from, if other villains don't have a diamond there probally insta folding to a flop bet, so letting them catch up a bit, but it's a scary board even with 2 pair.

Is this English?
I understand this is a casual forum, but it takes just as long to use the correct words so folks can actually read Your post. See your vs. you're and there vs. they're.

Anyway, OP, you don't lead flop to simply pick up $9. You're getting value from all types of hands.
As mentioned the AI is bad as you'll only fold worse the vast majority of the time.

Lead the flop large, All Ax are calling you, loads of diamonds are calling you.

leading is for value. and i don't see why your worried about getting raised here since that is just another indicator of your hands relative strength based on the opponent raising range. if they are never raising with worse then you have an easy decision and save money on future streets.

Dont really mind how you played the hand although I might have lead the Turn here since we are still 3-way and I dont want it to check through from a free River diamond. Shoving once CO folds is fine since you dont want MP catching a card on 'his' terms and you fully expect to call all Rivers (except diamond?), right?

Leading the Flop would be image dependent I think and very well could cost you money in quite a few hands. I wouldnt c/r Flop since only better or KdXx are calling wth 2 cards to fade ... better to lead Turn if you want to go with an aggressive move to fold out any draws. Ppl are way less likely to call with only one card to come, but to a fish/newbie this will look like a 'move' and prob still call with AX.

I still like how the hand was played with CO in there for a bit. GL

With the 3rd villain in the hand, I'm likely to take a passive line here. I'm happy to station off with bottom two so long as villain keeps betting so that:

1) we keep AX in,
2) we keep KXo in,
3) we get a chance to boat up and stack a big flush,
4) we can theoretically fold if we sense villain has a flush and is not giving us correct odds (however, with stack sizes, I don't think folding is ever correct).

I don't mind the shove on the turn if we think V1 is never calling bets on the river with worse then bottom two.

I think plenty of worse hands call my all-in here. If I call the turn and lead river some of these hands will fold.

True.

Good points. The ace otf hits limping ranges well.

These were my thoughts.

Villain tanked ott and was like "oh man." After :45 of seconds of thought he called with 88.

Edit: Equity check - 50%/50%.