Open Side Menu Go to the Top
FAQ Today's Posts Search Twitter Discord
Register
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? 1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here?
Post Reply Subscribe
...
10-12-2019 , 10:46 PM
#1
momo_uk
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By momo_uk Find Threads By momo_uk
veteran
Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2,546
1/2, $300 deep

7 handed vs two loose passive Vs

UTG limps, H (SB) $18 with JsJd, BB and UTG call

Approach 1: Conservative, planning to bet/fold every street

Flop ($54): 9s6s2c
H $25, BB folds, UTG calls

Turn ($104): 3c
H $40, UTG calls

River ($184): Qc
H $50, UTG calls

******

Approach 2: High risk, do or die

Flop ($54): 9s6s2c
H $50, BB folds, UTG calls

Turn ($154): 3c
H $125, UTG calls

River ($404): Qc
H shoves last $107, UTG calls


I find myself taking the conservative approach almost always when 150bb deep.. but a lot of the reg crushers in my pool tend to just bomb it off in these spots and go for the max
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-12-2019 , 11:15 PM
#2
Thamel18's Avatar
Thamel18
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By Thamel18 Find Threads By Thamel18
Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,161
Against loose/passives, overpairs are monsters. On a board like this, where it's very difficult for them to hold 2pr+ type hands, I prefer the aggressive approach. When dealing with loose/passives, since their ranges are so wide, my worry about facing 2pr+ applies to their offsuit holdings which are more frequent. If they have 2pr with a suited holding that's just unlucky with how wide their ranges are.

On this board I like going $40/$100/shove river ($140).
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-12-2019 , 11:39 PM
#3
momo_uk
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By momo_uk Find Threads By momo_uk
veteran
Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2,546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thamel18
Against loose/passives, overpairs are monsters. On a board like this, where it's very difficult for them to hold 2pr+ type hands, I prefer the aggressive approach. When dealing with loose/passives, since their ranges are so wide, my worry about facing 2pr+ applies to their offsuit holdings which are more frequent. If they have 2pr with a suited holding that's just unlucky with how wide their ranges are.

On this board I like going $40/$100/shove river ($140).

Can you ever bet fold turn? They never show with worse.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 04:56 AM
#4
monikrazy's Avatar
monikrazy
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By monikrazy Find Threads By monikrazy
Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,055
I like 40 on flop, and often checking the turn when called, depending on how light loose passive peels the flop.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 05:17 AM
#5
venice10's Avatar
venice10
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By venice10 Find Threads By venice10
Referee
Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 25,855
I prefer a b/b/x line with a potential FD on the board. It isn't for protection, but rather to drain out more money from the FD chasing if it is there. Against loose passives, I want to size the bets to over 1/2 PSB.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 05:27 AM
#6
momo_uk
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By momo_uk Find Threads By momo_uk
veteran
Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2,546
Quote:
Originally Posted by venice10
I prefer a b/b/x line with a potential FD on the board. It isn't for protection, but rather to drain out more money from the FD chasing if it is there. Against loose passives, I want to size the bets to over 1/2 PSB.

So pretty much almost the same line I took except you check river? But then, idk what to do when they bet when checked to.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 05:28 AM
#7
momo_uk
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By momo_uk Find Threads By momo_uk
veteran
Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2,546
Quote:
Originally Posted by monikrazy
I like 40 on flop, and often checking the turn when called, depending on how light loose passive peels the flop.

Why would you check turn vs fish? This guy would always raise flop with 2p+.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 05:36 AM
#8
venice10's Avatar
venice10
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By venice10 Find Threads By venice10
Referee
Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 25,855
With the read of a loose passive player, I'm mostly folding in this situation. LPs treat poker as a game of whoever hits the biggest hand by the river wins. They will show down virtually everything to see who won after you check. They aren't going to bluff regularly enough to justify a call.

If you're up against a player that bets at any weakness, you're going to have to make this call.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 05:40 PM
#9
Thamel18's Avatar
Thamel18
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By Thamel18 Find Threads By Thamel18
Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,161
Quote:
Originally Posted by momo_uk
Can you ever bet fold turn? They never show with worse.
I never said you couldn't. That's absolutely fine.
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
10-13-2019 , 05:58 PM
#10
snowman
View Profile Send Message Find Posts By snowman Find Threads By snowman
old hand
Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,748
Quote:
Originally Posted by venice10
I prefer a b/b/x line with a potential FD on the board. It isn't for protection, but rather to drain out more money from the FD chasing if it is there. Against loose passives, I want to size the bets to over 1/2 PSB.
+1
1/2: conservative or high risk line with an OP here? Quote
Post Reply Subscribe
...
      
Feedback is used for internal purposes. LEARN MORE
Contact Us Privacy Statement TOS
Top
Powered by:  Hand2Note
Copyright ©2008-2022, Hand2Note Interactive LTD
m