This may be the worst line I have ever taken.

The table is deep most have 200 blinds, me and V have 400
V is new to poker, he 3! A9o against me from 25 to 200 and I jammed QQ (150 blinds) earlier, he also has been stacking off with really bad hands given the board and stack sizes.

Also the table can’t fold pre and is super passive post, so I’ve been using my stack all night. No one has adjusted.

So I raise Jc9c utg+2 to 15

Four callers
Flop KJ7r 1 club

I bet 40 only V calls

Turn Pot is 155
Tc

I check he bets 55

I have a pair, double gutter, and flush draw.
I want to check raise (around 200); however, I don’t want to flip for 1600 if he comes over the top.
I think the double gutter is good because what aces does he call a check raise with? He cant have Ac9c. He probably doesn’t have AK since he has been 3! A9o

Any reason for calling here?
I called when I played the hand

Pretty weak sizing by the opponent. Perhaps JX/draws in the lower end of his range, 77/JT/in the top end but generally those would value higher. KX w/gutter in the mix as well

Oop, I’d call with direct and implied odds as played.

Pre – with table calling all raises, limping (or folding) seems way better to keep IO high. Raising this hand and getting called multi-way seems leaky.

Flop – C/C

Turn - Probably B/C turn for $70-75.

Pre: I feel like I'm opening a bit smaller pre if I want to play a lot of hands. J9s in EP is fairly wide, so if I can't thin the field a decent amount by raising to $10 or $12 here, I think I'm more likely to just fold it and play a slightly tighter game. Based on the way you described the table, I might not be opening J9s here at all.

For $55 on the turn with that pot size I'm never folding with your hand. Other than flopping the joint you pretty much got exactly what you hoped for at that point. If that's not a good situation for you then fold pre.

So I call turn and the river brings 2d

The pot is 265
I lead for 200
I’m repping JT, KT, T7, and 98.
So a lot of value hands

And he snap jams
I snap fold

And he shows Ad6h

Was the lead that bad?

Doesn’t look like you’re repping much, honestly, although he made a pretty awful call with A6 for over 2/3 pot. The river card didn’t change anything.

You should have won the hand but I don’t like the river bet at all. We don’t have to find a way to win every hand. Sometimes you just need to give up.

If you knew on the turn that you would bet a blank river, then you should just be check-raising the turn instead. Your $200 would have been a lot more effective there than it was on a blank river. I’m not advocating the check-raise there, I’m just saying I find it better than what you ultimately did. I think your line was fine until the river. Some would prefer a flop check 5-ways but I think it’s fairly negligible.

I like the call OTT.

However, sorry to say but yes, leading river was a big mistake here.

You have some showdown value. You can't keep trying to run over bad players in these games.

River is a check and then possibly a call depending on his bet size. You said you saw him play erratic and spewy preflop but did not comment on his postflop play, so I have to assume you did not have a strong read there.

This guy seems like a clueless AGGRO. You are going to have TOOOOOONS of spots to take his cookies, in the future be patient and let the $ roll in.

Not buying T7/98 cbetting flop into multiple players. Not buying these hands C/C turn for ~1/3 PSB with multiple draws on board.

Sorry, I should have said he made an awful jam over a 2/3 psb.

Think he has pretty significant showdown value. Villain has floated flop and taken a stab when checked to on the turn. His range is still pretty much ATC.

I don't understand why we are trying to bluff a guy who stacks 150bb off preflop with A9o when we hold 2nd pair. I would check/call the river.

I would rather bet to try and get a call from 7x or Tx than I would try to make him fold a king.

I think that when you described him as willing to stack off with weak holdings means that you probably don't want to be bluffing this type of player. you don't need to turn your hand into a bluff when you have showdown value; this guy feels like a bit of a crazy player so I don't think you have much fold equity ; due to his small sizing on the turn I think you could raise there but you don't have to call off if he jams; run the numbers and look at the pot odds and make your decision; he will be extremely nutted if he jams over your turn raise so your decision would be pretty easy, I think you were a bit too worried about getting jammed on based on the line the V took

That’s a really good point, and a lot better than what I did.
I just thought there were so many kings in his range because I led into 4 or 5 people otf, somebody has to have a king right? So I guess I wasn’t thinking about his range properly

Leading river is pointless, given your description of V. What better hands fold? A lot of your strong hands will bet again on turn (or possibly check raise) with how draw heavy the board has become & the likelihood of your opponent having pair+draw hands. I think you're badly leveling yourself into weird plays if you think you're repping 2pair with your line. And what you rep looks like it doesn't matter to this opponent, let him spaz & get him with value bets, stop going up to level 2+ when he's clearly at level 0.

Flop bet is also meh for pretty much the same reasons.

x/c flop, x/c turn, x/ evaluate river is the line I would take.

AP, do not lead river, you are basically turning your hand into a bluff as you aren't really going to get called by worse hand given V's line and you aren't getting a better hand to fold. If you want to bluff V off a better hand you can x/r the river if you are tricky enough to play the nuts or a set that way.

Props to this V for owning you and pulling off this bluff as you weren't repping much of a hand.