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1/2 Caesars Palace AK. Are we ahead or behind 1/2 Caesars Palace AK. Are we ahead or behind

09-01-2015 , 12:01 PM
Just curious as to what people think about if we are ahead or behind...

Casears Palace 6:30 AM.

Game seems pretty deep. Must be players who have played all night. Some stacks 2K plus. First time I see a $500 chip at a 1/2 game.

I just sit down 3 hand played. No real read except both Villains looks like good players. They both look like Las Vegas regs.

BB V1 MAWG ($1900 ish)
Cut off Asian guy 25 ish ($1500 ish)

Hero buys in for $300 BTN

OTTH

Folds to Cut off who raises $17. Hero looks down at AK
Debating on whether to 3! here but since I am new to the table and do not have reads, I figure Ill just flat and play poker from here.

SB folds BB V1 calls Pot ($52)

Flop AJ3

Checks to hero who bets $40. V1 calls, Asian guy raises $100 more
Pot ($232).

At this point I am thinking either fold (unlikely given massive odds), flat or shove. I this point I am not too sure where I am at. I under rep my hand so I beat all AX hands except AJ and A3. Maybe he has JJ or 33 but doubtful.

So I elect to flat. To my surprise V1 calls.

Turn K Pot $352

Checks to hero who?
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09-01-2015 , 12:45 PM
So you have around $140 behind? I say get it in here. I know you have no read on Villain but only flush I think he realistically has is maybe A 10 of diamonds. Doubt he's opening to $17 with queen 10 or 89 ect. With the size of the pot I don't see you getting away here with your stack size. I think he has AJ or AQ more often than the flush, especially how you have under repped your hand.
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09-01-2015 , 12:49 PM
3 bet pre, raise flop. As played, I just shove turn, but I'm not thrilled with it.
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09-01-2015 , 01:16 PM
after mawg calls behind, i hate seeing k of diamonds ott. i check behind to see if v2 bets and gets check raised. if so, i save the $140. if not, i gii. still don't love it tho
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09-01-2015 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by papasmurf4040
So you have around $140 behind? I say get it in here. I know you have no read on Villain but only flush I think he realistically has is maybe A 10 of diamonds. Doubt he's opening to $17 with queen 10 or 89 ect. With the size of the pot I don't see you getting away here with your stack size. I think he has AJ or AQ more often than the flush, especially how you have under repped your hand.

What about AdQd?
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09-01-2015 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by potodds0
after mawg calls behind, i hate seeing k of diamonds ott. i check behind to see if v2 bets and gets check raised. if so, i save the $140. if not, i gii. still don't love it tho

As described, V1 is BB, V2 is CO and Hero is BTN. So checking behind OTT will close the action on this street.

Since both checked here, I'm shipping. If either one hit the flush and checked, God bless 'em, and I still have a coup,e of remote outs for a full house. Otherwise, why am I playing in this game at this time of day?
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09-01-2015 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KKingDavid
As described, V1 is BB, V2 is CO and Hero is BTN. So checking behind OTT will close the action on this street.

Since both checked here, I'm shipping. If either one hit the flush and checked, God bless 'em, and I still have a coup,e of remote outs for a full house. Otherwise, why am I playing in this game at this time of day?
That was my thought as well. I figured once they checked, they opened the door for me to bet. If I get called, well, I have some small outs.

I shipped, V1 folded. (super relieved because I thought he had a flush)
Asian guy tanked looked at me, maybe some hollywood, saying if the diamond didn't come I was shipping, and folded.
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09-01-2015 , 03:28 PM
Good play. Letting a 4th diamond arrive for free would be disastrous.
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09-01-2015 , 05:59 PM
Isn't the pot $472 ott? (140*3 +52?)

I'm jamming my last $150. Not convinced that they automatically have made diamonds here, obviously we're beat a lot, but A3 and AJ make up a good section of their range and anybody w Ad is never folding here, I don't mind it that much as we'll be getting 4:1 on our money and when we get it in good we're significantly ahead.

3bet pre seems pretty mandatory. BB calls pretty much atc this deep getting these odds against the other megastack. Going 3 ways w a 6 Spr here definitely seems suboptimal.
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09-01-2015 , 06:30 PM
I find the flop far more interesting than the turn as played, to be honest. Really hate that spot.
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09-01-2015 , 06:43 PM
You need to shove or fold the flop. Flatting is the worst possible option. Generally if I'm flatting AK preflop, it's to under-rep my hand, in which case I'd be getting it in when I flop TPTK.

As played, we have to get it in now. Not loving it but the PFR is betting a flush on the turn pretty much always for value against V1, and V1 is probably leading turn with a flush a decent amount of the time as well.
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