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1/2 c/r turn on heavy draw board 1/2 c/r turn on heavy draw board

03-06-2011 , 08:42 PM
The stakes are £1/£2. I had around £110 (lost the previous hand so no time to reload). Villain (pretty loose playing his draws aggressively so far) has c/r me on the flop twice in the last hour and I have folded after C-Betting (including a hand where he had 88 on a 679r board). He seems a decent player along with other 3 players on the table. We are playing 8 handed.

Generally I have been tight since I didnt get any cards for hours. So every now and then I might raise with marginal hands IP.

My hand ATh on BTN.
So we have 2 limpers, I raise to 16 (anything less I get at least 2 callers).
Villain calls from BB all others fold.
Flop is 9c10sQs

Villain checks
I check

turn is Qd

Villain checks
I bet £22
Villain raises to 65

I believe that he cant have checked the Q twice on that heavy draw board unless he has a monster so I raise all in.. (I definitely was influenced by the fact that he has c/r me twice before).

My thinking was that he could have done this with any J (possibly with a pair) and also with a flush draw.

Am I losing from too many hands to make this play or there are too many hands that opp could have that justify my play?
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03-06-2011 , 09:32 PM
Preflop: If your opponents are as loose postflop as they apparently are with calling raises after they limp, then it's probably better not to raise at all and keep the pot small until you actually have a made hand. Also, getting called by 2 or 3 players who likely have worse hands than yours when you're in position isn't a bad thing. I don't think your giant raise was horrible, but against loose lineups you should at least consider overlimping.

Flop: I c-bet less often than most players h/u in position, but with a flop this coordinated this is not the time to get cute.

Turn: As played, against a spewy LAG I would shove also. Not only is it strange for him to check twice with a Q here, but he's less likely to hold a Q now that the second Q has shown up on board. Make sure your opponent is LAG, though. If he's not loose his calling range preflop consists of hands that crush ATs, and if he's not highly aggressive he's not going to be bluffing the third time he check/raises you in an hour.

Just my opinion...
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03-07-2011 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Moneyline
Turn: As played, against a spewy LAG I would shove also. Not only is it strange for him to check twice with a Q here, but he's less likely to hold a Q now that the second Q has shown up on board. Make sure your opponent is LAG, though. If he's not loose his calling range preflop consists of hands that crush ATs, and if he's not highly aggressive he's not going to be bluffing the third time he check/raises you in an hour.

Just my opinion...
Thanks for your reply.

Villain is definitely loose and somewhat aggressive after the flop. He is definitely not passive though. And even with that info alone, I guess you could say that he doesn't have many hands that he could c/r the turn with that aren't a monster. So it's either a fold or AI from me (obviously I can't just call with my stack size) and I went for the 2nd option since he knows he has fold equity with me (as he has seen in previous hands).

Any non monster hands would bet the turn right? (from Villains aspect of view)
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