Hero's image-tight aggressive..bought in for 300 sitting around 780. Has only showed down premium and solid value hands. Ran a couple bluffs but never made it to showdown.

Villain's image- middle aged white guy..sitting with around 400$. Hasn't had a showdown yet but seems to take his time before making a decision. He has been at table for about 2 hours seems tight and aggressive but can switch it up.

Villain(UTG+2) raises to 11$

Hero(Button) 3 bets to $30 w/ 98

blinds fold

Villain thinks for about 10 seconds and calls

FLOP- A 3 5

Villain checks

Hero- cbets $35.00

Villain calls $35.00

Turn Q

Villain- checks

Hero- checks

River- K

Villain- Checks

Hero- bets $75.00

Thoughts???

If your going to bluff this hand you need to fire the second barrel on the turn. However this is a horrible board/run out. Especially against said villain. I would shut down after the flop call.

Bet big on the turn, shove river.

SCs are good hands to bluff loose aggressive players who are raising too much pf. What you are hoping for is to catch him with his hand in the cookie jar and get a fold. Your back up plan is that you'll have decent equity on a flop to continue about 25% of the time.

Instead, you seem to have decided that you're bored and it time to run another bluff at whoever happens to be playing. This isn't the player you want to bluff at after the pf action. The board smashes his 3bet calling range by the river. Maybe if he has JJ or TT he folds, but he should have let those go on the flop as a TAG.

If your bluff worked, congrats.

If you are going to bluff here you need to continue on turn at least. This is a great flop for c-betting and villain isn't going to fold anything but air on this flop. That means it's a good flop to just give up.

The run out is weird because villain has Ax, Kx and Qx hands that likely call one bet on river but also has middle pairs that figure you have something by river. It's generally a bad spot for bluffing but history and reads matter.

If V opened from MP I like the 3b better win 98s, but since this is an EP open my plan would’ve been to call and play ip.

Ap, fine with the cbet
Turn: great card to db n get V off of 66-JJ, and other randomness that he could’ve called with
River: I doubt V is folding given our line. We’re always DB AK, QQ, AJ, etc. I KQ is about the only other value hand that makes sense in our range.

I’m not a fan of the river bluff. Our bluff has to be good about 36% of the time (75/205), I think we can get majority of his pairs under QQ fold, but I doubt he folds an Ace, or even a King.

I wouldn’t double barreled this hand AP give up river even with a winning/tight image.

Our line is pretty suspect.

Edit: I’ve learned the hard way that majority of players will look for reasons to call you down. By checking back turn you’ve sorta turned your hand face up to said V... give up river


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Hand played well. River could be bigger.

Turn card is one of the worst to barrel and river is a great one to rep big with AK/KK, and 9-high is the bottom of your range.

EDIT: That was assuming this was against a good player. A middle aged guy who's TAG except when he's not isn't a very helpful read.

yes being 1-2 nl I assumed this was the only player this would work on. he had stated early to other villains in hands he was in talking out loud saying things like I beat none of your value blah blah blah.

Hard to tell if someone is a "good poker player" off one session lol

Bluff did not work

villain thought for about 20 seconds and called with AK

See earlier post about how this texture and runout is the nut low for barreling this V. This guy is so tight he flatted on all streets including pre. Lol didn't raise on the river and your trying to barrel him off his hand. Think about this. I'm not trying to be a dick but you were just clicking buttons OP.

I would strongly advise against this bluff. You are folding out a few combos of JJ and TT but you need them to have called flop and then decide to fold river even though you rep nothing. If villain has AJ or AT I can't imagine him ever folding. If you think he's the type to fold top pair here you are going to have to pot it at a minimum.

I actually really disagree with people who say double barrel here. In general I don't think getting people to fold top pair in 3 bet pots on a fairly dry runout is going to be a +EV strategy, especially when they have AK in their flatting range pre.

I think if he's actually tag he shouldn't have ATo here, maybe. It even AJo (he shouln't) so you are targeting AK/AQ/AJs/ATs and the occasional TT/JJ. AQ and Ak are never folding, that's 24 combos. If he's playing half his JJ/TT this way that's 9 combos. Throw in another 5 combos of AJ and ATs. So if we are going to triple optimistically we can fold out the AJ, AT, and TT/JJ so that's 14 combos. If the turn were a club at least we would have some equity but seems kinda spewy.

I don't think people, particularly anyone labeled as TAG, are flatting no pair and no draw out of position on an A high board in a 3 bet pot. And if they are sick enough or spewy enough to call flop with air it's hard to imagine they are going to fold a pair when they get there.

Elaborate on why turn is a one of the worst barreling card and why river is a great one given the line H took?



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Seen the results so w/e, but I would bet flop, bet biggish on the turn, muck the river. Once V calls me twice on this board after he called my 3bet pre, he ain't folding unless he ****s his pants last minute with something like AJs

Hate the check on the turn. Hate it.

This. Preflop spew. Your hand plays great IP vs a raiser, no reason to 3! just because.

Turn is a bad card to barrel because it was such a horrible card for AK, so we're basically repping AA or whatever QQ takes this line. Q is just an all-around good card for a r/c range.

River is a great card because it's fantastic for AK and KK, which are the two most likely value hands to have checked the turn. It's not a wide enough range that we can bet 100% of our air here, but our air range should be extremely narrow on this board in UTG+2 vs BU, so it's fine to do so long as there aren't any tells are gameflow dynamics that say otherwise.

shorn7 "your hand plays great in position no need to 3 bet" interesting

It does play well IP and I don't hate a call or a 3! I think either play can be fine. There are plenty of villains at 1/2 whose raising range is so narrow that a 3! Is never going to get a fold and will often get 4!.

Yes, I don't think you should 3! this that often, maybe 10%. Calling a raise IP vs a V who is 200 blinds deep is basically a dream scenario for your hand as there are so many boards that you can rep and win unimproved because of the stack sizes. If you 3! this hand, one of two very bad things can happen:

1. V 4! and you have to fold. $30 on fire = bad.
2. V calls and now SPR goes from ~16 to ~6 which makes it MUCH easier for him to call off with AA/KK on a lot of boards. You don't want that...you want maximum flexibility to maneuver postflop.

Now, I am not saying that I never raise this hand IP. But I would prefer to 3! hands that are just barely maybe worth a call (like Q8s or T7s) where if called you still have decent equity, but you are really trying to steal preflop.

I would say a good spot to 3! T9s would be again on the button with a timid UTG raiser and 3-4 calls in between. In that spot, you 3! to hopefully hoover up a ton of dead $$ and/or get it HU with Mr Timid who, being fit or fold, will likely go away unless he flops a monster.

shorn7 thank you for insight makes more sense

I agree a 3 bet would be much better if we were deeper the spr is to shallow now

3bet is fine. Flop you can cbet, or check back and bet any turn where you pick up equity. As played, just check turn and river. You should have much better hands in your range that you can choose to barrel with.

Sure thing. Glad to help.

What are you trying to represent after the turn check? Both the K and Q are in Vs range... Were you trying to represent j10 or 24? Does V think J10 or 24 would 3bet preflop? I think the turn check was bad in order to continue a good story, but after the turn check, your story looses its believability...

This.

This is a good flop to cbet, but I think double and triple barreling are bad. I very much disagree that V is continuing with any pair here. We 3b pre and bet an A-high flop. While some V's will continue with any pair, some will find folds. Reads on V are critical here. Obviously prefer to 3b V's that will disgustedly flash their JJ and throw it away here.

When we get called (in games I play0, V has typically some PP he got sticky with and (mostly) aces. Double barreling into this range is not a good idea.

A bluff should be designed to get some specific portion of V's range to fold. OTR, for half a pot, I think we can reasonably expect he's only going to fold PP JJ and less. There aren't a lot of other hands that raise/call pre, call a flop bet and then fold to the river bet. He is unlikely to have weak Q's or K's. He's at least going to call any TP+. We need him to fold a third the time and I don't think he's got 1/3 folding hands here.

With 35x the call back, 98s plays very well as a call vs. EP raiser. Flat pre.

As a side note, your river bluff didn't actually "not work". You were (or certainly shouldn't have been) trying to get that hand to fold. A bluff that finds V's calling range neither worked nor didn't work; you were presumably aware that V would call with strong hands.

A bluff only doesn't work if V calls with a hand you expected to see a fold from.

It's a bad bluff if V's folding range isn't sufficiently wide, regardless of whether it worked or not.