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1/2 big draw in position line check. 1/2 big draw in position line check.

04-15-2019 , 12:22 PM
1/2 NL 300 max

Hero $400 - Been sitting for about 4 hours so far and haven't shown down a hand. I'm probably seen as an aggressive rock since I've either taken down pots with cbets in position or 3!'d out of the blinds and gotten folds.

V $400 - Not positionally aware, not particularly loose and has folded to large bets/repeated pressure before. Also not particularly creative as i haven't seen him semi bluff or check raise. Has probably been playing 15-20% of his hands. Usually as the pre flop aggressor.

V raises to 12 UTG+1, MP2 calls, HJ calls, Hero calls on the B with 56, blinds fold.

Pot: $51
Board: 47J
checks to hero who bets $30, all fold except for V who calls.

Pot: $110
Board 47JQ
V check, Hero check

Pot: $110
Board: 47JQQ
V check, Hero bets $55


Any thoughts on this? Better to check flop and evaluate turn action instead or is this draw sufficient enough to play fast? Fire again on the turn or is check behind okay? Obviously as played I had no choice but to fire river.
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04-15-2019 , 01:08 PM
Bet turn. Your draw equity went way down and this is a V who will fold to pressure.

AP, WTF do you think he thinks you take this line with? If I were V I'd call with any J, and probably 88-TT as well. Your hand looks like 7d with another diamond at best.
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04-15-2019 , 01:25 PM
This is a great hand to fire flop and turn and then jam river when we miss.

I agree with Garick that the line makes no sense, but I think we have to fire the river as played, because we have no showdown value and bluffing with the bottom of our range is never a bad idea, but yeah we screwed ourselves by checking the turn.
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04-15-2019 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Bet turn. Your draw equity went way down and this is a V who will fold to pressure.

AP, WTF do you think he thinks you take this line with? If I were V I'd call with any J, and probably 88-TT as well. Your hand looks like 7d with another diamond at best.
That's a fair point on the turn and why i asked the question.

On the river, i just don't see what V can have here. I didn't feel he's sophisticated enough to check a pair of jacks on a flop with 2 although I suppose it's possible. When he checks river we can safely eliminate Qs from his range. That leaves his likely range at flush draws (slight discounted since I hold 2 diamonds), AJ, KJ (again, I think he bombs the flop with a J but we'll keep them in), 88-TT and not a whole lot else unless i'm missing something.

Sorry if i rambled, does that make sense?
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04-15-2019 , 08:49 PM
Bet turn for sure, V is check/calling flop with an underpair, sticky Ahis which will fold to pressure with another overcards.
OTR he will be bluff catching you a lot with pairs putting you on exactly what you have, a missed draw
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04-15-2019 , 08:57 PM
Triple barrel ldo
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04-15-2019 , 09:31 PM
Bet turn.

If you got this runout river is not a bluff though, worst card to triple off on
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04-15-2019 , 09:33 PM
Agree with all above + with the line you took, you bet way too little on the river. 55 is an easy call with a J. I would go 80-90% of pot, maybe we even over bet pot to try to at least put V in a tough spot.

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04-15-2019 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Bet turn.

If you got this runout river is not a bluff though, worst card to triple off on
Why? We have quite a few QX combos. Sure - villain has some too, but we have at least 10 value combos that we’ll be triple barreling here and not that many bluffs.
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04-15-2019 , 09:46 PM
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Why? We have quite a few QQx combos.
That we check on the turn?

Oh you meant if we tripled. Obv at this point it's only one QdQx, even if we had bet turn, but I assume that you actually meant QdXd. Which I would agree we could rep if we had bet the turn.
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04-15-2019 , 09:49 PM
^ I edited my post I meant Qxdd when we’re triple barreling which is what Minatorr is talking about.
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04-15-2019 , 10:45 PM
Yep, we're on the same page now. QdXd kind goes out the window after we check turn though, so AP I think it's best to just give up here, as much as it sucks.
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04-16-2019 , 11:52 AM
Spoiler:
V folds. I knew I misplayed the turn and got lucky which is why I wanted to confirm.
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