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08-22-2014 , 01:42 PM
stacks
hero 450ish
villain 500+

hero is in Sb with AK
6 limpers in front of hero who makes it 21 to go
UTG+1 villain calls
LP,button calls

Flop
K35
hero bets 40
UTG+1 villain pumps it to 100
folds to hero????


villain is not that great of player even thought he talk about all the great moves he makes
I had seen him push with top pair good/medium kicker/draws and had seen him call with some funky pre flop cards.
He had won a big pot about an hour or so before flopping middle set busting 2 people out.
I had also see him just bully people with his stack
Should I be raising or jamming on this flop or is it better to just call and see what happens on the turn/river?
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08-22-2014 , 01:46 PM
Call flop and x/ship turn
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08-22-2014 , 02:02 PM
If he's as described, I can go either way. Call and bet/call any turn or just get it in now. It kind of depends on how V sees you. What will he think of a shove from you now? If there is any chance he will fold, just call. You can't really raise unless you make it like $250, but V must know that essentially an all-in.
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08-22-2014 , 02:26 PM
I didn't c-bet too much as I really loved the flop and didn't want to scare people that had a decent holdings
I decided to re raise to 220 to keep the villain in
villains shoves
hero called
villain show set of 3
hero misses and villain takes down 900+ pot
was this just a cooler or was there some way I could get away from this?
I been running rough the last few sessions and have taken some hits
AA Aipf vs AK, KK running into AA or QQ and QQ hits set,missing all my draws that type of thing.
I had been playing quite well up to this point then after this hand I just lost my confidence for a hour or so trying to get back into game mode after a big lost.
of course while this is going on all i hear from villain about his excellence plays that he pulls off
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08-22-2014 , 03:04 PM
Cooler. No biggie. We all would have gotten the money in.
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08-22-2014 , 03:05 PM
Edited... Didn't see reads at the bottom, usually more helpful up top. Anyway, this is an amazing flop so I'm probably just flatting and c/r the turn.

Last edited by jimicornerstone; 08-22-2014 at 03:10 PM.
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08-22-2014 , 03:09 PM
Wait, what? You are folding top pair / top kicker and nut flush draw? And H did give reads on V -- he has pushed with top pair medium kicker and draws. This is a no-brainer.
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08-22-2014 , 04:04 PM
Just call the flop. Even this villain might realize you have a big hand if you 3bet the flop relatively deep and find a fold with something dumb.
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08-22-2014 , 09:27 PM
I would of played it the same way vs this Villian, results sucks but don't think you can get away from it.
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08-22-2014 , 10:53 PM
It sounds like he is bad at folding and overplays his top pairs, so I think a reraise here to 215/shoving turn for a half pot size bet on the turn w equity for the times I am behind sounds feasible. It seems pretty tough to get paid off by worse with this line, especially while deep, so maybe not do this unless you have seen this guy pay off SUPER light.

Bet bigger on flop, like 50 or so into the pot of 70.

X/shipping turn is also a possibility, but I still think this is overplaying our hand and isolates us w better/folds out worse.

the line I prefer is to call his raise, C/C turn and C/C river to keep his range as wide as possible. I dont think he is stacking off as lightly since he is deep, you probably have a tight image yourself as well(something to consider).

I think going bombs away is going to fold out mostly everything worse than a set, so your outs aren't going to be THAT good when you get the money in. Flatting keeps his range very wide, and it sounds like he is kind of bad aggressive, so giving him leash and milking his entire range seems pretty sweet. It's really Villain dependent though. The lighter he stacks off, the more aggressive I am going to be(stacking off with like KJ, KQ, AK, QQ here) If he has a really wide range but folds when I get aggressive, I am going to give him the leash

Last edited by blackluster777; 08-22-2014 at 11:07 PM.
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08-22-2014 , 10:56 PM
The OP needs to have the pot size on the flop. In any case, you have a great draw to the nut flush (a hand you definitely want a bunch of action with) so you shouldn't be looking to get away from this so easily.

I would have called the flop and checked to him on the turn with the intention of calling (if I missed the flush) so he could keep barreling with the weaker hands or bluffs in his range.
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